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#316964 - 10/19/19 07:04 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Hat, you are so busy shouting your partisan mantras that you forgot I was the one that brought up Wilson's racism. As a reminder, here's what I said:
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I am now confident that there is no depth that Trump will not plumb in his quest to be the most corrupt President in US (and most of the world's) history. It's like he is trying to push every button he can in the quest for impeachment - emoluments, self-dealing, lying, politicizing foreign policy, giving Putin every advantage he can, betraying every ally - and not just "not hiding it" but shoving it in everyone's face. He is more arrogant and less principled that Andrew Jackson, more corrupt than Harding's entire cabinet, more criminal than Nixon, more racist than Woodrow Wilson or Andrew Johnson, less competent than Polk or Coolidge or Bush Jr. Frankly, there is no aspect of any of the worst, most contemptible White House occupants that Trump has not exceeded by a mile. He is a one-man constitutional crisis.


And don't believe for a moment that I've forgotten that your diatribe was intended to cover for the distraction from the merit of my post with irrelevant and inaccurate characterizations, as is your wont. I take that to mean you concede the rest of the descriptions and just want to harp on racism. I don't understand why that motivates you so much. I know what really pisses you off isn't my beliefs at all, but the embarrassment you feel for the utter vacuity of your posts.

I'd genuinely wish you a nice day, as is my wont, but that would detract from your preferred state of just being pissy. Really. Get a grip, man.
Yes, you did bring up Pres. Wilson's racism. But when you made the claim that Pres. Trump is more racist than Wilson was you made a claim that is and was proven wrong. That you included Pres. Andrew Johnson shows that not only are you wrong but that you are delusional. No one alive today could be more racist than a former slave owner as Andrew Johnson was. The reason I chose that portion of your comment was due to the fact that it is so blatantly wrong that it is difficult to believe anything you say. My "diatribe" was not to distract from the merit of your post. That cannot be done because you post has no merit at all!

To illustrate how I feel about you NW here are the lyrics of a song by a famous MN, Robert Zimmerman.
Originally Posted By: Bob Dylan
"Positively 4th Street"

You got a lotta nerve
To say you are my friend
When I was down you just stood there grinning
You got a lotta nerve
To say you got a helping hand to lend
You just want to be on the side that's winning

You say I let you down
You know it's not like that
If you're so hurt why then don't you show it
You say you lost your faith
But that's not where it's at
You had no faith to lose and you know it

I know the reason
That you talk behind my back
I used to be among the crowd you're in with
Do you take me for such a fool
To think I'd make contact
With the one who tries to hide what he don't know to begin with

You see me on the street
You always act surprised
You say, "How are you? Good luck"
But you don't mean it
When you know as well as me
You'd rather see me paralyzed
Why don't you just come out once and scream it

No, I do not feel that good
When I see the heartbreaks you embrace
If I was a master thief perhaps I'd rob them
And now I know you're dissatisfied
With your position and your place
Don't you understand it's not my problem

I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment I could be you
Yes I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
You'd know what a drag it is to see you.
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#316967 - 10/19/19 10:28 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Senator Hatrack]
NW Ponderer Offline
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Registered: 09/09/11
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Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Yes, you did bring up Pres. Wilson's racism. But when you made the claim that Pres. Trump is more racist than Wilson was you made a claim that is and was proven wrong.
Au contraire, mon frere. You expressed an opinion. That opinion is about 100-150 years out of date. It is yours. You can keep it. You "proved" absolutely nothing. You expressed an opinion. I happen to disagree.

I am bemused that you form such strong opinions about me when you know absolutely nothing about me. It appears that these opinions are based solely on preconceived notions about what "the other" must be like. There is a word for that... I'll think of it...

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#316968 - 10/19/19 10:44 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
Senator Hatrack Offline
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
more racist than Woodrow Wilson or Andrew Johnson,...
There is your claim about Pres. Trump's racism, taken from your comment, NW. In reply to your claim that has no basis in fact I posted links to prove that it is not true. What has been your response? Patronizing evasions of what you said. Again, you have shown that your comments are without merit.
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#316974 - 10/20/19 01:06 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Senator Hatrack]
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Registered: 11/24/06
Posts: 15778
Loc: Florida
I don't figger anybody is more racist than anybody else. It's like being queer. Either you are or you aren't. And only you know for sure.

I'm a redhead and I've had melanin envy all my life. Used to go to the beach and the other kids turned brown as nuts while I turned flag-stripe red then sloughed off my skin like a lizard. We Gingers don't have souls you know, but we'll steal yours with a glance.

Stands to reason that the darker your skin the more soul you must have.
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#316978 - 10/20/19 01:51 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Greger]
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Uh-oh... bad news for me. The sun is not my friend. I like soul music, though.
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#316981 - 10/20/19 02:41 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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I like soul music, though.

Of course you do. You're jealous of those who actually have souls, it's a common cause of racism. Bigger souls mean bigger dicks, more cause for jealousy and hatred.

Black people are so much better than us. I choose to admire them rather than hate them.

Brown people too, their joie de vivre even in the face of adversity is astounding.

White folks are the bane of the human race. Especially the men. But as warriors and conquerors we are unsurpassed.
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#316982 - 10/20/19 03:21 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Greger]
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No argument there... do you think I should try a spray tan?
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#316984 - 10/20/19 04:13 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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I tried that once in junior high. We took showers together, I got laughed at. But it seems to work for The President.
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#316985 - 10/20/19 06:20 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Greger]
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Registered: 09/09/11
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Originally Posted By: Greger
I tried that once in junior high. We took showers together, I got laughed at. But it seems to work for The President.
For a very broad application of "works".

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#316987 - 10/20/19 11:31 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Originally Posted By: Greger
I tried that once in junior high. We took showers together, I got laughed at. But it seems to work for The President.
For a very broad application of "works".

Trump saw on the teevee that orange is the new black, but was nettled that an orange spray-tan didnít make his vienna finger into a bratwurst.

It didn't work, but he keeps trying it anyway... say, isn't that the definition of something? wink
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