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#317127 - 10/23/19 08:04 PM its raining Russian assets
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Quick, show of hands.

Who agrees with Hillary, that Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset?

This is pretty explosive stuff. Active member of the military, actual US congressperson.

What does this mean if Russia can turn someone such as Gabbard to their will?

Are any members of the military or elected officials safe from Slavic compromise.

This is an allegation being made by a former First Lady, NYS Senator, former Secretary of State, Two time Democratic primary candidate, one time Democratic Party presidential nominee.

My two questions would be, how confident are you of the evidence she has given for the charge?
What can be done to secure our representatives brains from Slavic hacking?

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#317132 - 10/23/19 09:06 PM Re: its raining Russian assets [Re: chunkstyle]
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Hillary is still a global power broker so she might learn of things others might never hear.

On the other hand she might have been duped by the Russians into saying that.

We never know anymore do we?
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#317147 - 10/23/19 11:28 PM Re: its raining Russian assets [Re: chunkstyle]
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She's confusing the Liberal fantasy narrative, that's for sure.

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#317149 - 10/23/19 11:35 PM Re: its raining Russian assets [Re: chunkstyle]
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Let me jump to a conclusion.

Haven't got a clue.

Because she is "softish" on Russia does not inherently mean she is a Russian asset. I mean if "softish" is the qualification for being an asset then we have a Russian asset occupying the WH. While I could not say he is an asset, I can say he is an asset to Putin's agenda.
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#317155 - 10/24/19 12:23 AM Re: its raining Russian assets [Re: chunkstyle]
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How about the notion that Trump is a fully bought and paid for tool, whereas Tulsi's just ignorant and is maybe only a light duty tool, or not even a tool at all, just an idealist who still thinks we need to just play along with Putin because he's not such a bad guy after all.

Wait a minute...that sounds an awful lot like a tool.
Hmmmmm...
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#317156 - 10/24/19 12:24 AM Re: its raining Russian assets [Re: chunkstyle]
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But if Trump was encouraged by Bill and Hillary to get involved in politics and the Podedsta emails revealed the Clinton campaign team was actively encouraging Trumps Republican nomination, how do we know if Hillary isn’t a Russian Dupe. Maybe she’s trying to throw Tulsi under the bus as distraction?


Edited by chunkstyle (10/24/19 12:25 AM)

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#317157 - 10/24/19 12:30 AM Re: its raining Russian assets [Re: chunkstyle]
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Didn’t Tony Podestas company work for Paul Manaforts consultancy that was working for Yanukovych, Putin’s man in the Ukraine?

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#317164 - 10/24/19 12:50 AM Re: its raining Russian assets [Re: chunkstyle]
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“The Podesta Group was helping Manafort’s company on behalf of a group called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine. That a high-powered Democratic lobbying firm became involved with Manafort, a longtime Republican Washington power broker, might seem curious. The firm became one of Washington's top performing lobbying shops, in terms of revenue, by employing both Democrats and Republicans, which opened up lucrative contracts with Fortune 500 companies such as Walmart. The Podesta Group's chief executive officer is Kimberley Fritts, a veteran GOP political operative....

...In the early 2000s, Tony Podesta pursued contracts with foreign governments, particularly those seeking to break away from Russia. Therein lies the mystery. The Manafort work seemed to be at odds with this mission. The European Center was cited in the Monday indictment as part of a “scheme” by Manafort and Gates to promote their longtime client, the pro-Russian leader Viktor F. Yanukovych, the former Ukrainian president.”

Who is Tony Podesta and why is he under scrutiny in Bob Mueller's Russia investigation?

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#317165 - 10/24/19 12:57 AM Re: its raining Russian assets [Re: chunkstyle]
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“Former president Bill Clinton had a private telephone conversation in late spring with Donald Trump at the same time that the billionaire investor and reality-television star was nearing a decision to run for the White House, according to associates of both men.

Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.

Clinton’s personal office in New York confirmed that the call occurred in late May, but an aide to Clinton said the 2016 race was never specifically discussed and that it was only a casual chat.”

Washington Post 2015

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#317172 - 10/24/19 02:11 AM Re: its raining Russian assets [Re: chunkstyle]
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