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#317137 - 10/23/19 10:54 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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What do you get when you put Matt Gaetz and Matt Whitaker together in a sealed room?
A masculine toilet maker and a master baiter.

DEMS DEMAND INFO ON ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL’S “MASCULINE TOILET” SCAM
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#317140 - 10/23/19 11:03 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: pdx rick]
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Quote:
he thinks saying “no quid pro quo” somehow magically makes a quid pro quo disappear


Like saying "No homo" before doing something blatantly gay. Face it dude, you are gay! (Or should I say, fabulous!)

Did anybody notice this?
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The Manhattan judge had called the immunity claim “repugnant to the nation’s governmental structure and constitutional values,” and said he could not “square a vision of presidential immunity that would place the President above the law.”

This case was about Trump's tax records getting subpoenad by a DA. The judge basically tore Trump's immunity claim a new arsehole. The dominos are falling! It's all over the internet, because this could end all of his immunity claims and the justice department memos that shield him.

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#317150 - 10/23/19 11:38 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I think that is precisely the argument I have promoted for some time. If any president is not subject to the law while in office, it implies he is above the law. I think the Founders would have objected to anyone being above the law.
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#317166 - 10/24/19 01:15 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: rporter314]
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Pfffffft...the founders flaunted the law and fomented revolution.

They were the lefties of their day. They tried to create a document that would prevent someone like Trump from ever becoming president.
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#317168 - 10/24/19 01:39 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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Okay, Trump's brain is officially demented:
Quote:
We're building a wall in Colorado. We're building a beautiful wall. A big one that really works.

We are building a wall...

I doubt he's going to make it to 2020. It's going to be "resigned for health reasons", or Amendment 25 time. Then off he goes into a memory care facility. It's not funny any more. It's pathetic.

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#317170 - 10/24/19 02:08 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Okay, Trump's brain is officially demented:
Quote:
We're building a wall in Colorado. We're building a beautiful wall. A big one that really works.

We are building a wall...

I doubt he's going to make it to 2020. It's going to be "resigned for health reasons", or Amendment 25 time. Then off he goes into a memory care facility. It's not funny any more. It's pathetic.

Trump's daily shyte show is fatiguing. #TrumpFatigue

Is Trump getting New Mexico to pay for Colorado's southern wall?

crazy
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#317177 - 10/24/19 03:42 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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This little stunt that many of the GOP Reps pulled today is the equivalent of a suicide bomber running into a crowd of people and as he yells Trump Akbar! and presses the button to martyr himself, instead of a bomb going off, a little flag unrolls that says 'Boom!" on it.

Notice these idiots pulled his stunt while Nancy is away in Baltimore, burying her brother. I'm hoping she shoves her stiletto'd foot up their asses when she comes back. smile
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#317181 - 10/24/19 04:47 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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#317182 - 10/24/19 04:51 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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Those morons are just asking for a censure, or worse. Invading a secure space, taking in cell phones, and even shooting video is a big no-no. People (both Democrats and Republicans) on these committees have security clearances for a reason. I imagine those guys just killed their chances to ever get one themselves.

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#317183 - 10/24/19 05:05 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

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This court order to turn over Ukraine materials in 30 days will probably be appealed by Trump which means it will likely land in the SCOTUS.

If SCOTUS rules in favor of Trump, saying he has no need to turn over materials, I cannot think of a larger constitutional crisis.
It would be about as close to any definition of "an end to democracy" AND even to "the rule of law" as I can think of, because it effectively DOES put President Trump ABOVE the LAW.

And if a majority of Americans and our lawmakers simply acquiesce to such a travesty, then we'd better damn well learn to love our yokes and the whip, which is sure to come.



Congress wanted the materials, Trump told them to go to Hell.
Now the courts have weighed in, Trump appeals, it goes to SCOTUS.
If SCOTUS favors Trump then Congress and the Judiciary are effectively stripped of all power and are rendered entirely irrelevant.

That's the end of our democratic republic. We will be finished.
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