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#316144 - 09/30/19 11:10 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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#316145 - 09/30/19 11:10 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: chunkstyle]
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Perhaps you are not seeing it correctly? That's all I can think of.
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#316146 - 09/30/19 11:14 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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No, I think I'm seeing it correctly.

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#316147 - 09/30/19 11:28 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: chunkstyle]
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Perhaps this is a good example of the problem. You seem to not want to let me represent my own meaning and intent. I have learned that there is no point in arguing with someone who will not let me speak for myself, and listen to what I have to say with respect and consideration.

BTW, you are hijacking my topic again.
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#316149 - 09/30/19 11:58 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Perhaps
Perhaps you want to narrow the conversation
Seeing correctly...
Yeeesh!

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#316151 - 10/01/19 01:29 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Trump Pressed Australian Leader to Help Barr Investigate Mueller Inquiry’s Origins

Does this need it's own thread Logs, or does it belong here?

I'm still navigating your own dewey decimal system...

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#316153 - 10/01/19 02:41 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: chunkstyle]
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It's up to you. I'm not trying to tell you what to do or think. I'm not interested in a dead end argument with you just for sport.
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#316154 - 10/01/19 02:49 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: chunkstyle]
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Ukraine, Italy, and now Australia - all countries Trump asked "a favor" from. smile

Nancy wants to keep the impeachment articles narrow, but Trump has committed so much corruption, it's going to be hard to keep the inquiry narrow. Hmm
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#316157 - 10/01/19 03:21 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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I find it interesting that there’s as many arguments for impeachment as against in the leftist media with good arguments being made by both sides of the argument.
Nader’s all in on impeaching the President, not just for Ukraine, but all his constitutional transgressions.
Others think it will backfire and lead to an election victory and four more years of the current administration.

One that was pretty spot on for me was:

‘It blows my mind that congressional Democrats will draw a red line on Ukraine while virtually ignoring decades of presidential misconduct. Where was Congress when Obama, then Trump, sponsored Saudi Arabia’s war crimes in Yemen? Both presidents provided military assistance to a cause that could not have proceeded without it. And both failed to secure the constitutionally mandated approval from Congress.“

Impeach all Presidents


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#316159 - 10/01/19 04:00 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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I can always tell what Trump is up to, because he starts accusing opponents of that crime. He's calling people traitors, but all they are guilty of is lese majeste, which is not a crime in our country. Meanwhile, he is promoting civil war if he would be impeached. That would mean he is going to war against the legitimate successor President.... Which is the very definition of treason.

Let's hope so: Do they still hang people for treason?

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