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#318639 - 12/05/19 09:00 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: Greger]
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There's never really been much difference between the parties as far as global politics is concerned, not really that much difference in domestic policy either.


A few years ago that was pretty much the case, but now one of the Parties has Trump leading them into mutual psychosis. Getting back to reality is going to be very painful for them after Trump goes full-on bonkers.

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#318677 - 12/06/19 03:20 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
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There's never really been much difference between the parties as far as global politics is concerned, not really that much difference in domestic policy either.


A few years ago that was pretty much the case, but now one of the Parties has Trump leading them into mutual psychosis. Getting back to reality is going to be very painful for them after Trump goes full-on bonkers.


One party?

Again, there is no context anymore but you can comment on the immediate for now, and I see the liberal class as having equally lost their minds by challenging the president from the right.

This framing of Russia as an aggressor when we have broken pledges (no surprise here) and pushed narratives that are weak and flimsy at best and dangerous worst of all could be seen as mentally unstable.
We are now in a new atomic arms race with Russia with the weapons makers cheering it o and there has been crickets about this.

We have drastically reduced launch response time with the drive for faster missle speed and AI monitoring. No discussion.

We have other countries interfering far more than Russia that's visible and palpable in our politics that goes unreported.

We have ringed an extremely dangerous country with our military and Navy but Libs are calling them the aggressor country?

We have armed reactionary, fascist elements in countries past and present to overthrow democratically elected governments, while the rending of clothes and nashing of teeth goes on in the Liberal camps over 'the threats to Democracy'.

Here's Pozner giving his assessment to the current U.S./Russian relationship and how we've arrived here. A conversation at Yale university in 2018.

He gives much needed context and I agree with his assessment with the lack of any progress being made here due to the older generations' biases and propaganda exposure.






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#318686 - 12/06/19 06:24 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: chunkstyle]
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