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#315798 - 09/24/19 04:13 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Trump and his sycophants ever changing story tells us decent and moral Americans that we really do "have him now." smile
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#315801 - 09/24/19 05:09 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: Ujest Shurly]
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Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
As long as Republicans hold the Senate, President Donald (...) Trump will never be convicted let alone tried or the charges even heard.


So Speaker Pelosi will:

Keep investigation(s) on going and public
Plan Articles of Impeachment for June
Pass them in early July
Pass them to the Senate in late July
Everybody goes home in August
The constituents express their opinion(s)
The senate will refuse to hear the articles in September, let alone a trial
Everybody goes home to run for office in October
We vote in November...

My current thoughts on this whole thing.


That would be delicious!
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#315803 - 09/24/19 05:29 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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So how did a political fail-son, known to buy crack shirtless, get his arse on a Ukranian energy company board of directors?

Is it like Joe Manchin's daughter's company bilking every community's in America's school's, fire department's and ambulance corps for the cost of mandated Epipens but more comical?

Trump I get but the other part of the story?..... You have to admit, it has more comic possibilities than the usual Liberal centrist rip-off's.


Edited by chunkstyle (09/24/19 05:49 PM)

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#315804 - 09/24/19 05:51 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
So how did a political fail-son, known to buy crack shirtless, get his arse on a Ukranian energy company board of directors?

Is it like Joe Manchin's daughter's company bilking every community's in America's school's, fire department's and ambulance corps for the cost of mandated Epipens but more comical?

Trump I get but the other part of the story?..... You have to admit, it has more comic possibilities than the usual Liberal centrist rip-off's.

People do rehabilitate themselves and turn their lives around. Hmm
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#315805 - 09/24/19 05:57 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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The Washington Post reported and the Wall Street Journal has confirmed that Donald Trump himself ordered the freeze of congressionally allocated funds for Ukraine just one week before that phone call where he requested eight separate times that Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Zelenskiy open a sham investigation of Joe Biden and his son. Which means Trump had personally started putting the squeeze on Ukraine before he made the big ask on July 25th.

Trump's trusty henchman Mick Mulvaney set the wheels in motion. On July 18, the Office of Management and Budget, headed by Mulvaney, told the Pentagon and the State Department that the funds allocated by Congress for Ukraine were being frozen because the president had "concerns." Except, as the The Washington Post reports, the White House made darn sure not to tell them what those "concerns" were - which is how you know they were trying to cover their tracks.

Quote:
Administration officials were instructed to tell lawmakers that the delays were part of an "interagency process" but to give them no additional information - a pattern that continued for nearly two months, until the White House released the funds on the night of Sept. 11.


Donald Trump held up the $500 million allocation for Ukrainian weapons systems, maritime defense, and coordination with NATO, and then took steps to hide what he was doing by getting his underlings to lie about it. That's pretty strong circumstantial evidence that he intended to use the money as leverage to get the Ukrainian government to gin up a bogus case against Joe Biden.

Hmm
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#315808 - 09/24/19 06:22 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Look, if the public is this far ahead of this Ukrainian thing in keeping-up with the details, Trump will not be able to wiggle out of this one. smile
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#315809 - 09/24/19 06:49 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Soooooo....

A crack smoking fail-son of a neoliberal Veep finds love and redemption that ultimately leads to his career getting turbo charged with an almost preternatural talent for eurasion energy management.

O.K., sure...


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#315810 - 09/24/19 07:47 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Soooooo....

A crack smoking fail-son of a neoliberal Veep finds love and redemption that ultimately leads to his career getting turbo charged with an almost preternatural talent for eurasion energy management.

O.K., sure...



If I didn't know any better I'd swear someone thinks this is all about protecting Hunter Biden or Joe Biden.
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#315818 - 09/24/19 10:01 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Wouldn't it just be a damned shame if this ruined Biden's chance at the Democratic nomination.......

**chuckles maniacally**
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#315820 - 09/24/19 10:17 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: Greger]
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