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#318210 - 11/23/19 04:04 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Kylie Griffin on Twitter

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Breaking via NYT: The DOJ IG report "debunks a series of conspiracy theories and insinuations about the FBI that Mr. Trump and his allies have put forward." IG Horowitz "made no finding of politically biased actions" by top Comey, McCabe and Strzok.


Russia Inquiry Review Is Said to Criticize F.B.I. but Rebuff Claims of Biased Acts

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At the same time, however, the report debunks a series of conspiracy theories and insinuations about the F.B.I. that Mr. Trump and his allies have put forward over the past two years


So the Ukraine hoax is now a known case of Russian GRU espionage level agitprop, Nunes is implicated in the Giuliani scheme and the entire deep state CT is now exposed as a total fraud.

There isn't a toilet large enough in the entire galaxy for a bucket of turds this size.
But there are cages large enough to house a couple hundred compromised Congressmen and Senators. We know there are because they're the ones who paid for them with our money.
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#318211 - 11/23/19 04:31 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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#318214 - 11/23/19 06:34 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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The handcuffs are going to come out for a good many Republican Congressmen and Senators.

"Handcuff them? Who's going to do that? Barr? You're kidding yourself!"

I am beginning to get a gut feeling Barr will be in handcuffs as well.
It is very likely that, on a sunny and humid day in Washington DC in 1973, more than a few people were asking themselves,
"Handcuff them? Who's going to do that? John N. Mitchell? You're kidding yourself!"

And yet, as we certainly remember...

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On February 21, 1975, Mitchell, who was represented by the criminal defense attorney William G. Hundley, was found guilty of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and perjury and sentenced to two and a half to eight years in prison for his role in the Watergate break-in and cover-up, which he dubbed the "White House horrors." As a result of the conviction, Mitchell was disbarred from the practice of law in New York. The sentence was later reduced to one to four years by United States district court Judge John J. Sirica. Mitchell served only 19 months of his sentence at Federal Prison Camp, Montgomery (in Maxwell Air Force Base) in Montgomery, Alabama, a minimum-security prison, before being released on parole for medical reasons.


It took some time but the fact that he was indeed charged, arrested, tried, convicted and incarcerated shows that it is still possible for the arc of justice to bend toward the truth. So okay, Barr himself might TRY to prevent arrests, but he must know that at some point they're going to come for him.
And this time, it may even be sooner rather than later because this is no longer a case of just breaking into an office anymore.
This is much much larger than the Watergate break-in.

And Lev Parnas' upcoming testimony may actually lead to toppling one of the biggest criminal conspiracy dominoes underneath Barr, Republican Ranking Member Devin Nunes.

Not to mention, once the smoke clears from the wreckage of former President Trump's administration, Barr may also be charged as a criminal co-conspirator or at the very least, a criminally negligent accessory in the murder of Jeffrey Epstein, too.
Right at this present time Barr certainly will have built firewalls around that but those firewalls will evaporate like a marshmalow in a cyclotron precisely on November 3rd, 2020.
And he will be naked, and afraid.
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#318215 - 11/23/19 10:50 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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#318216 - 11/23/19 10:59 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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According to CNN, Lev Parnas' lawyer Joseph Bondy, that Parnas is willing to testify before Congress that Nunes met with “a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden."

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Bondy said that Parnas was told directly by the former Ukrainian official that he met last year in Vienna with Rep. Devin Nunes.

“Mr. Parnas learned from former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin that Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December,” said Bondy…

Bondy tells CNN that his client and Nunes began communicating around the time of the Vienna trip. Parnas says he worked to put Nunes in touch with Ukrainians who could help Nunes dig up dirt on Biden and Democrats in Ukraine, according to Bondy.


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#318217 - 11/23/19 11:41 AM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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A 100-page trove of State Department documents was released on Friday to the nonpartisan watchdog group American Oversight. The documents, which were part of a FOIA lawsuit for all Trump administration dealings on Ukraine, include multiple emails of Pompeo’s call schedule, showing the nation’s top diplomat holding calls with Giuliani - just like Gordy Sondland testified to at Wednesday's Congressional hearing.

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#318221 - 11/23/19 05:31 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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The handcuffs are going to come out for a good many Republican Congressmen and Senators.

Don't get your hopes up, pard'ner. Even if they were, a whole new crop of them are waiting in the wings. Most of these investigations will blow over and the rest will be handled by the many corrupt judges being appointed in record numbers by an equally corrupt Senate.

2020 will give us a temporary course change, we'll be able to slap a few bandaids on a few wounds before Republicans take the helm again.
Then we'll do it all over again.
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#318222 - 11/23/19 06:45 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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OK ... I sloshed the facts over my brain for a quick readout and it doesn't compute ... yet.

Rep Nunes has been working the Biden Gambit for a while, dating back probably to May 2018. So why would Mr Trump conspire with Giuliani to work the Gambit through Ukraine? Was this a 2 pronged attack? One working strictly from private sources, the other using government resources?

Maybe the Nunes Initiative got nowhere in the private sphere and Mr Trump decided VP Biden represented a greater danger to his occupation early this year to wait on private dirt. This was the only quick synapses firing result.

Maybe someone has a different perspective?
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#318223 - 11/23/19 06:53 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
So why would Mr Trump conspire with Giuliani to work the Gambit through Ukraine? Was this a 2 pronged attack? One working strictly from private uses...

That's correct. The quid pro quo was initiated on two front: US Diplomatic channels and Trump's private back-door channels through Rudy Colludy.

Amb. Yovanovitch stood in the way of Trump's own corruption that he sent Giuliani over to Ukraine to further. Trump initially had his corrupt Ukrainian official, prosecutor general Yuri Lutsenko, but Lutsenko lost his job and Trump had to start over.

THAT is why Amb. Yovanovich had to go, she stood in the way of Trump's Plan B which was to get to the newly-elected President of Ukraine to publicly state an investigation into the Biden's AND to clear Russia of the US Intel Community's fact-finding evidence that Russia DID interfere in our 2016 election.

The pressure that Trump asserted on Ukraine President Z was to withhold the Javelins that Congress approved in February 2019 and the DoD certified in May 2019 as having met the corruption reform threshold to be awarded the aid.

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#318225 - 11/23/19 08:55 PM Re: The Trump/Biden/Ukraine thing [Re: logtroll]
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Ooops, looks like Devin is going to the Greybar Hotel, along with the rest:

Nunes’ Meeting With Ex-Ukraine Official

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Rudy Giuliani’s indicted associate Lev Parnas is prepared to tell Congress that Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) met with a former Ukrainian prosecutor who was ousted over corruption concerns in a bid to get dirt on Joe Biden, CNN reported Friday.


Trump really IS draining the swamp... by getting all the swap monsters sent to prison!

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