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#318678 - 12/06/19 04:21 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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What stat did I see today? .... some 44% of Republicans would like for the dissolution of the SC and Congress to allow Mr Trump to reign unfettered.

Now if you don't think that is scary ... maybe you have seen too many slasher movies.
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#318681 - 12/06/19 05:10 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
What stat did I see today? .... some 44% of Republicans would like for the dissolution of the SC and Congress to allow Mr Trump to reign unfettered.

Now if you don't think that is scary ... maybe you have seen too many slasher movies.


Yes, I too saw that stat the other day. Obviously 44 percent of Republicans harbor extreme contempt for democracy. As the Chinese say, we are living in interesting times.
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#318682 - 12/06/19 05:13 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: rporter314
What stat did I see today? .... some 44% of Republicans would like for the dissolution of the SC and Congress to allow Mr Trump to reign unfettered.

Now if you don't think that is scary ... maybe you have seen too many slasher movies.


Yes, I too saw that stat the other day. Obviously 44 percent of Republicans harbor extreme contempt for democracy. As the Chinese say, we are living in interesting times.


Beats a Clinton/Dole match up.

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#318693 - 12/06/19 11:04 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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Seems Lindsey Graham has clutched his pearls for the last time for Mister Trump. He says that he is now "one thousand percent certain" that Ukraine was not the villain, and that it really was Russia screwing with us the whole time.

Quote:
"It was the Russians. I'm 1,000 percent confident that the hack of the DNC was by Russian operatives, no one else," Graham told reporters on Capitol Hill.

"I have no evidence [Ukraine] did. Russia stole the emails, not the Ukraine," he added.

Asked about whether Trump was muddying his defense by pushing the claim, Graham said he thinks it's "always wrong to say things that can't be proven."


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Simply put, the risks Graham exposed himself to with Trump were apparently far outweighed by the larger risks inherent in continuing to believe the Trump CT on Ukraine when the truth is finally exposed. And it's obvious that someone somewhere finally made that crystal clear to him.
I've concluded that the biggest reason these bootlickers continue to pimp the Ukraine CT is because many of them still believe that they are on the winning side.
The safety of this country doesn't matter to them, only what's in it for them if they "win"...even if the rest of the country loses...loses everything.

Clearly someone sat "Miss Graham" down and laid out in stark terms how all of this is eventually going to boil out in the end, and Graham must have wound up "staring into the abyss."
Thus, Lindsey Graham, is corrupt and purely transactional just as the rest of TrumpCo is.
He just realized that his investment in TrumpCo was about to go bust sooner than the rest of them did.
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#318695 - 12/06/19 11:38 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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It means absolutely nothing if he votes to acquit Trump.

He will vote to acquit Trump.

Col. Lindsey Graham, US Air Force(ret), is a military guy. He will do whatever he has to do to keep money funneling into the military and to keep the hands of our fighting forces busy. Up to and including kissing the orange man's ass. But he's a Senator, a body somewhat more serious than the House, and must adhere to some standards because, like all the rest of us, he knows that Trump will be gone soon and he plans on sticking around a bit longer.
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#318698 - 12/07/19 12:09 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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New York Review of Books, article by Garry Wills

Three Myths About Impeachment

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Myth One: “Co-Equal”

Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, who has been overseeing the impeachment hearings, is badly misrepresenting the Constitution when he says that the Congress is a co-equal branch of government with the presidency. It is not. It is by far the superior branch. James Madison made that clear for all time with his lapidary sentence in Federalist No. 51: “In republican government, the legislative authority necessarily predominates.” Necessarily. Discussion over.
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#318699 - 12/07/19 01:34 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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It's co-equal if you own both halves. If you're the whiney half that has no real power except to accuse, then you may not get taken too seriously when your case goes to court...It's a slam dunk for Mitch McConnell.

What if Mitch tables it to let the voters decide...

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#318702 - 12/07/19 02:18 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Greger]
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let the voters decide


Of course the voters DID decide back in 2016, when 3 million more of them voted for Clinton, and again in 2018 when they made the House Democratic. They would have done the same to the Senate but for the particular Senators who had to run that cycle.

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#318708 - 12/07/19 02:57 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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It is a phony argument to say let the voters decide. The voters will decide when they get to vote and Congress gets to enforce their Constitutional mandate all the time.
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#318709 - 12/07/19 05:30 AM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
It is a phony argument to say let the voters decide. The voters will decide when they get to vote and Congress gets to enforce their Constitutional mandate all the time.

...and if the SCOTUS doesn't get involved and (s)elected a president for us. coffee
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