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#319373 - 12/28/19 03:27 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Please and thank you

Who cares? At least he's not Trump. smile
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#319374 - 12/28/19 03:31 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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#319375 - 12/28/19 03:33 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Please and thank you

Who cares? At least he's not Trump. smile


2020 LibDem bumper sticker?

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#319376 - 12/28/19 03:34 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Please let them debate...
Please let them debate...
Please let them debate...

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#319378 - 12/28/19 03:47 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Please and thank you

Who cares? At least he's not Trump. smile


2020 LibDem bumper sticker?

Why not? $87.00 for 125 quantity. Want one? smile
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#319379 - 12/28/19 05:23 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger

Bernie is surging in the polls by the way! I imagine Chunkstyle is walking around with a little more spring in his step these days just knowing there's a good chance he'll get to own the libs in the end.

We would then hope that Warren would bow out early and endorse Bernie.

It's the agenda that's important, not the person. Sen. Warren would have a big part to play in a Sanders administration. I'm gonna let myself get a little excited about this possibility...



Has anyone else noticed that the top MSM outlets have suddenly done a soft pivot and are quietly acknowledging that there even IS a Candidate Sanders? And then this morning I clocked both CNN and MSNBC pointing to op-eds by Politico and The Guardian which are stating that DNC is beginning to grasp the possibility that a Sanders pick is the winning gambit against Trump.

I don't know if it's genuine or calculated...it sort of resembles watching my square parents trying to learn how to dance The Twist back in the 1950's, but I still had to almost pinch myself.

Just how effective IS the GOP noise machine, really?
As the campaign approaches, I guess we'll see.

But I still say that they've largely shot their wad on boy who cries wolf shrieks of socialism, because the folks who buy that already voted Trump anyway, and the ones who don't normally bother to inform themselves saw a very composed old guy with frumpy hair who didn't look or sound anything like either Stalin or Castro a few times over the past week.
In fact, he sounded a lot like FDR.

He was talking about bringing back good paying jobs and helping their kids get training for those jobs, all while presenting a logical case for healthcare reform and for once, these voters and viewers didn't get treated to the usual indignant snorts of derision after the nice Mister Sanders was finished speaking.

Again, maybe this is just a calculated media move, or maybe media is starting to notice that they gain viewers whenever that nice old man is on their channel, and the viewers go away when he's not.
Oh wait...that IS calculated. Okay I don't care, just keeping putting the nice old man on TV.

Anyway, it's a noticeable shift, and not just because I noticed it.
I heard a lot of friends noticing it too.
At least for the moment, the MSM blackout of Bernie appears to be lifting.
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#319380 - 12/28/19 05:26 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
This does seem to be the last off ramp there will be.




What did Klaatu say?
"At the precipice, we change" ??
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#319390 - 12/28/19 06:34 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I doubt it was actual Democrats who did not come out to vote in 2016. It was mostly independents. Anybody connected in a formal way to the Democratic Party would have been highly motivated. But over 1/3 of voters are not connected to a Party, and float from flower to flower, voting sometimes R, sometimes D, some times Third Party, and sometimes not at all.

And as for sh*tty candidates, almost all of Hillary's supposed sh*tyness was supplied by Republicans! It was the big lie technique: You repeat a lie enough times and people start to believe it. Apparently you still do, even though Hillary's policies were almost identical to Obama's.


That's right, Democrats wanted independents to vote for their sh*tty candidate because vote blue no matter who. Then they blamed those non-Democrats for their loss. Go figger...you've got to earn the independent voters.

I liked Clinton. I voted for her. I think she would have been a great president. But, say what you will, she was a sh*tty candidate. Too much baggage, too many political enemies, she was too distant, too aloof, and most of all had no charisma. There were a thousand things that that made her a better choice than Trump. But what did he have that she didn't have? CHARISMA.

Democrats have one charismatic candidate in the primaries. They have one candidate who is known to have enormous support among independents.

It aint Biden.
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#319393 - 12/28/19 07:14 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Greger]
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I'll admit that I gave Bernie no chance when the race started. But it looks like Warren is flaming out. That's a lost bet if Senator Hatrack comes back. I'd say it's not the first time I was wrong but it would be more truthful to say it would've been the first time I was ever right if Ida been right

I thought she might slip in as a centrist choice.

So the media is liable to turn this into a right vs left barnburner.

The more I learn about Mayor Pete the less I like. **with the caveat that what I learn is pretty much what the propaganda machine wants me to learn**
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#319395 - 12/28/19 07:54 PM Re: And we're off and running! [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I am not a big fan of Bernie

I don't think he can beat Trump
I think he is too old plus he had a heart attack
He is a self proclaimed socialist who refuses to even consider joining the Democratic party
He is a bit too free with multi-trillion dollar programs

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