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#317407 - 10/27/19 07:13 PM ISIS Leader Killed in U.S. Special Operations Raid in Northern Syria
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The leader of the Islamic State militant group, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, was killed during a U.S. special operations forces raid in northwestern Syria, U.S. President Donald Trump announced Sunday morning.

“Last night, the United States brought the world’s No. 1 terrorist to justice. … He was a sick and depraved man, and now he’s gone,” Trump said at the White House Oct. 27, noting that the United States had no casualties during the operation. “The world is now a much safer place.”

- Foreign Policy.com


Because this is about Trump, there's more to the story - as usual.

Pelosi says Trump kept lawmakers in dark on raid

Quote:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is criticizing the White House for failing to notify congressional leaders before the U.S. raid in Syria that President Donald Trump says killed the leader of the Islamic State group.

She notes that the U.S. let Russia know the raid was in the works.


What does Russia have to say about this?

We Have 'Valid Doubts About The Reality And Success' Of ISIS Raid

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The Russian Federation's military said on Sunday that it had "valid doubts" about President Donald Trump's claim that ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi had been killed.

In a speech from the White House on Sunday, Trump first thanked Russia for its assistance in the raid. According to Trump, Russia had allowed U.S. aircraft into its airspace to conduct the operation.

But later on Sunday, the Russian military indicated that it was unaware of the raid, according to BBC reporter Steve Rosenberg.

A spokesperson for the Russian military said there were "valid doubts about the reality & success" of the U.S. operation.

“We are not aware of any assistance having being given to US Air Force flights into the air space of the Idlib de-escalation zone in this operation,” a source in the Russian defense ministry added.


...and how would this, yet another Trump cluster-fck, not be complete with Trump's very own photo-op 'victory' ala Obama's bin Ladin Situation Room photo?



Guys, at least plug the cables into computers to make it seem like you all watched the take-down in real-time. Hmm

Such amateurs. coffee
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#317408 - 10/27/19 07:20 PM Re: ISIS Leader Killed in U.S. Special Operations Raid in Northern Syria [Re: pdx rick]
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Trump 2020:
incompetent, indecisive, intolerant and ineffective

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#317409 - 10/27/19 07:33 PM Re: ISIS Leader Killed in U.S. Special Operations Raid in Northern Syria [Re: pdx rick]
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Trump's claim that "he died like a dog" was probably not the best idea, considering that the ISIS leader died when he detonated a suicide vest, surrounded by his three young children. Seems like Trump was celebrating the murder of innocent children. I think that was unnecessarily inflammatory for a lot of Muslims, considering their attitude toward dogs as unclean. It's sort of like saying we killed him and then peed on his family's mass grave. It could have been announced in a much more dignified manner.

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#317413 - 10/27/19 08:06 PM Re: ISIS Leader Killed in U.S. Special Operations Raid in Northern Syria [Re: pdx rick]
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Bin Laden developed the entire philosophy of the Islamic State & a terror caliphate, massacred 3,000 American citizens, led to the loss of 7,000 US soldiers and led to founding of ISIS. Baghdadi was not in his league as far as historical impact.

Hmm
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#317419 - 10/27/19 09:21 PM Re: ISIS Leader Killed in U.S. Special Operations Raid in Northern Syria [Re: pdx rick]
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I guess I will remind about the founding of ISIS. When we decided to invade Iraq we dropped millions of notices on Iraq. I used to have one but lost it (wife probably put it into a safe place). Anyway, these notes were to the Iraqi army. It said that if they stayed out of the way, when we attacked they would be made whole, be paid, and otherwise accepted. The Iraqi army then stayed out of it and we didn't have to fight them. What we did, instead, was to go back on our promise and fired the whole lot of them as soon as we took over. I remember when the entire Iraqi army officer corps rioted over this. We just put down the riots and ignored them. That same office corps later became ISIS.

Just one more promise we ignored and didn't keep (we have a long and disgraceful history of this kind of behavior). Why in the world would anybody believe us? If they doubted before after Trump I figure there won't even be a question as to our word.

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#317421 - 10/27/19 11:27 PM Re: ISIS Leader Killed in U.S. Special Operations Raid in Northern Syria [Re: pdx rick]
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There was never an ISIS until we invaded sovereign Iraq in March 2003 because 15 of 19 9/11 highjackers were Saudis. Then, to make matters even worse, L Paul Bremmer fired all of the Iraqi police and military three months after our invasion as Provisional Authority Colaition No 2.

Those tactically trained men sure did not go open falafel carts - they formed ISIS.

(Just another Republican mess created coffee )

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#317460 - 10/28/19 01:31 PM Re: ISIS Leader Killed in U.S. Special Operations Raid in Northern Syria [Re: pdx rick]
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There was just so much wrong and disappointing about President Donald (...) Trump's comments on this action.

Just one point out of the many dumb ass mistakes made, exposed capabilities of some of our most sensitive Intel equipment and community; making the US less safe and providing a bench mark for our enemies to shoot for.

I will congratulate our Spec Ops for another job well done.
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#317462 - 10/28/19 01:49 PM Re: ISIS Leader Killed in U.S. Special Operations Raid in Northern Syria [Re: pdx rick]
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Trump's Baghdadi presser was a shyteshow as you would expect.

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Trump spent a lot of time after his prepared remarks offering more information than his administration would’ve surely preferred. Here are just a few examples:
  • “Two or three efforts” to get Baghdadi were scrapped over a few weeks because of the terrorist leader’s unpredictable movements.
  • Before the raid, the US knew that Baghdad’s compound had tunnels through which he might try to escape.
  • US troops blew a hole through a door in order to go inside the compound.
  • The US had more DNA than it needed to verify that the one of the men killed in the raid was Baghdadi.
  • The US killed scores of people in Baghdadi’s circle and captured others.
  • The US used eight helicopters and other ships and planes to help with the strike.


Hmm
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#317483 - 10/29/19 04:40 AM Re: ISIS Leader Killed in U.S. Special Operations Raid in Northern Syria [Re: pdx rick]
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It turns out that The Kurds, you know that folks the US has been working with for decades that Trump decided on his own to abandon a few weeks ago, were instrumental in the location of Bagdahdi so that US Special Forces could kill him. (Actually a Special Forces K9 deserves THAT credit. smile )

In typical Trump assholery fashion, Trump discounted The Kurds role:

Quote:
The Kurds provided some information on the whereabouts of Bagdahdi.


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#319795 - 01/08/20 07:29 PM Re: ISIS Leader Killed in U.S. Special Operations Raid in Northern Syria [Re: pdx rick]
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You neglected to mention that, before we invaded we dropped flyers telling the police and army to stay out of it and they would be just fine and still have jobs. THEN we fired them all!

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