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#319922 - 01/12/20 01:48 AM Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate
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A new Washington Post Poll has former Vice President Joe Biden holding an immense lead in a new national poll of black voters - more than doubling his nearest competitor, Independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders - and more than one in four say it is “important” that a white candidate choose a black running mate.

Dems need the black vote to turn-out and vote and not stay home like they did when Killery was on the ticket in 2016. Hmm
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#319923 - 01/12/20 03:25 AM Re: Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate [Re: pdx rick]
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I will never ever understand that.
Joe Biden was the linchpin of legislation that destroyed the lives of MILLIONS of black men for the most trifling offenses, two tier drug sentencing, the list of things he has allowed to be done to black people is a mile long.

It is incomprehensible.
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#319927 - 01/12/20 04:58 AM Re: Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate [Re: pdx rick]
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Simple: He's the guy Obama picked. They just are not aware of his legislative record, but they think Obama liked him. That outweighs anything else.

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#319930 - 01/12/20 05:50 AM Re: Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
I will never ever understand that.
Joe Biden was the linchpin of legislation that destroyed the lives of MILLIONS of black men for the most trifling offenses, two tier drug sentencing, the list of things he has allowed to be done to black people is a mile long.

It is incomprehensible.

Linchpin? Republican House and Triangulation Bill Clinton? P'shaw. smile
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#319947 - 01/12/20 04:09 PM Re: Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
I will never ever understand that.
Joe Biden was the linchpin of legislation that destroyed the lives of MILLIONS of black men for the most trifling offenses, two tier drug sentencing, the list of things he has allowed to be done to black people is a mile long.

It is incomprehensible.


Not THAT incomprehensible.

1. when crime was spiking and violent crime was spiking, there was a national requirement to break it. Every politician stumbled over each other to prove that they were tougher on crime than their opponent.

Now the threat is far reduced, and so people value other things (such as re-training, restitution, reintegration, etc.) relatively higher than we did before, but that doesn't mean that politicians at the time weren't facing the public that they were.

2. He's the guy Obama picked. Most folks make their political decisions based on fairly simple factors, and very - very - few go look at things like policy platforms (or, frankly, even care about them). Supporting Biden
A) reinforces that they were right that Obama was a good President, and
B) allows them to support someone they probably perceive as more likely to win.

People tend to stick with what they know - and the African American demographic is socially and tempermentally probably one of the more conservative blocs within the Democrat party.


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#319949 - 01/12/20 05:11 PM Re: Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate [Re: CPWILL]
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...the African American demographic is socially and tempermentally probably one of the more conservative blocs within the Democrat party.

Agreed. SEE: CA Prop 8 and Pete Buttigieg's polling by black Americans.

Hmm
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#319950 - 01/12/20 05:50 PM Re: Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate [Re: pdx rick]
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...the African American demographic is socially and temperamentally probably one of the more conservative blocs within the Democrat party.
So, generally speaking, how's the black turnout for primaries?
Is Biden the sort of exciting candidate that will bring them out in droves? I suspect not.
They'll come out in big numbers to vote against Trump in the general, and even their supposed "conservative" status won't keep them from voting for Bernie should he get the nod.

Or you reckon a bunch of black people gonna say...Bernie's too progressive...I'm voting for Trump... LOL LOL LOL LOL
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#319951 - 01/12/20 07:45 PM Re: Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger


Or you reckon a bunch of black people gonna say...Bernie's too progressive...I'm voting for Trump... LOL LOL LOL LOL


True that.
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#320125 - 01/18/20 03:11 PM Re: Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate [Re: pdx rick]
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A new Washington Post Poll has former Vice President Joe Biden holding an immense lead in a new national poll of black voters - more than doubling his nearest competitor, Independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders - and more than one in four say it is “important” that a white candidate choose a black running mate.

Dems need the black vote to turn-out and vote and not stay home like they did when Killery was on the ticket in 2016. Hmm
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YouGov shows basically the same. 51% of blacks supporting Biden, 16% Warren, 9% Sanders. Among Hispanics, its Sanders 31%, Biden 25%, Warren 15%. Whites are all clumped together with Sanders and Warren at 21% and Biden at 20%. Question 40

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ueji3eha6i/econTabReport.pdf

If Biden can hold the black support he has today, he'll be tough to beat. Blacks make up approximately a third of the Democratic primary vote.

I would think Biden being Obama's VP has a lot to do with the Black support he is getting. I also don't see it dwindling. Blacks have supported Biden between 50-55% for over the last six months. This may be the case where either Sanders and or Warren must drop out and throw their support to the other if either one is to come out on top. Each on average is ten points, plus or minus a point or two behind Biden. Together, those two are ten points ahead of Biden. But as long as each stays in the races, both will continue to trail Biden. If one or the other drops out and throws their support to the one that is left, Biden is very beatable.

This not being willing to drop out and throw your support to another candidate is exactly how Trump won the Republican nomination although he received only 35% of the total GOP vote until the the last couple or three primaries where no opposition put his total to 40%.
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#320128 - 01/18/20 03:34 PM Re: Biden's Huge Lead in National Poll of Black Voters, 27% Want Black Running Mate [Re: perotista]
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Originally Posted By: perotista
...If Biden can hold the black support he has today, he'll be tough to beat.

Which is exactly what Brad Pascale told Orange Fatass in 2018 and why he and Rudy Colludy went after Joe Biden with their Ukrainian scheme in 2019. Hmm
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