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#319796 - 01/08/20 07:35 PM Re: Global warming predictions [Re: logtroll]
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In case you haven't seen some of the devastation of the animals down under.
Pretty uncut video:

No one gets out alive

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#319814 - 01/09/20 03:04 PM Re: Global warming predictions [Re: logtroll]
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I spent from 2015-2018 working directly on water management changes with respect to climate change, and worked on it part time for 5 years prior to that.

The consensus my coworkers and I arrived at is that the "everyone dies within X years" posturing hurts the effort more than helps it. Climate change isn't an event, it's a process, and it can be measured by a measurable decline in people's standards of living, from the bottom up...AND an increase in weather-created (or modified) disasters.

If you had told me in 2000 that a hurricane would trash an American city and we'd just leave it trashed, I'd have said you had a screw loose. If you had told me that a small city would burn down and nothing at all would be done afterward, I'd have called you crazy.

But here we are.

This s*** going on in Australia and the American Southwest is the new normal. It's how things are.
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#320070 - 01/16/20 02:48 PM Re: Global warming predictions [Re: logtroll]
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CLEAN Future Act

The establishment Democrats answer to the Green New Deal.
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#320074 - 01/16/20 03:14 PM Re: Global warming predictions [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
CLEAN Future Act

The establishment Democrats answer to the Green New Deal.


The Green New Deal was a proposal cooked up without the luxury of a massive and well funded think tank, you know, the ones that spend every single day assembling polished and gavel-ready legislation that the congress critters don't even bother reading before voting on it.
What good would that do? If they read it, they might have objections, and when one of those massive think tanks hands you that packet, they don't intend for any mere congressman or senator to think or have objections...that's what gets you primaried by those think tanks!
No sir, you take the packet and the money and you do as you're told, that's what you do.

The Green New Deal was hatched at AOC's kitchen table, and although it distinctly lacked any polish, it also had some authenticity, like someone really cared.

I can't wait to smell the mimeo ink on this CLEAN Future Act.
I wonder which think tanks helped out on it.
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#320084 - 01/16/20 07:03 PM Re: Global warming predictions [Re: Hamish Howl]
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I am no longer convinced there is any normal at all. Normal's out the window. What scares me is that, eventually, the geo engineers are going to be called on simply because we humans simply do not have the capacity to do the right things.

This is, actually, no surprise..........

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#320252 - 01/20/20 10:13 PM Re: Global warming predictions [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: logtroll
CLEAN Future Act

The establishment Democrats answer to the Green New Deal.


The Green New Deal was a proposal cooked up without the luxury of a massive and well funded think tank, you know, the ones that spend every single day assembling polished and gavel-ready legislation that the congress critters don't even bother reading before voting on it.
What good would that do? If they read it, they might have objections, and when one of those massive think tanks hands you that packet, they don't intend for any mere congressman or senator to think or have objections...that's what gets you primaried by those think tanks!
No sir, you take the packet and the money and you do as you're told, that's what you do.

The Green New Deal was hatched at AOC's kitchen table, and although it distinctly lacked any polish, it also had some authenticity, like someone really cared.

I can't wait to smell the mimeo ink on this CLEAN Future Act.
I wonder which think tanks helped out on it.


The think tank I'm associated with is most definitely not involved.

This will be handled by think tanks run by Exxon.
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