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#320302 - 01/21/20 07:28 PM My Obsessive Compulsion
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No, this is not a new diagnosis. I had a thought this morning, though, about why I do something over and over, without a rational belief that is it going to change anything. This is me:

I have found myself trying to convince people online of the error of their thinking (or lack thereof). I do it all the time, and I have yet to see it have an effect. I have described it as a Sisyphean task, a Pyrrhic effort, and, now, as a compulsion. I know, intellectually, that it will be ineffective and frustrating, but I continue to do it.

I am asking, my friends, for an intervention. Please help me stop trying to convince brain dead idiots, partisan ideologues, and Trump voters (as if they were somehow mutually exclusive) to change their minds. I know the research indicates that this is nearly impossible.

I listened, for as long as I could, this morning, as soulless Mitch McConnell stood in the well of the Senate and spouted misbegotten lie after blatant lie about the impeachment process. Yet, I knew, that no matter how vociferously and obviously he lied, there is a significant segment of the populace (many of whom are US Senators) that just doesn't care. It sickens me, it saddens me, it frustrates me no end. Unable to expurgate these feelings at home, I turn to the internet. And there my compulsion takes over.

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#320311 - 01/21/20 07:51 PM Re: My Obsessive Compulsion [Re: NW Ponderer]
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NW P, that's what satire is for!
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#320312 - 01/21/20 07:52 PM Re: My Obsessive Compulsion [Re: NW Ponderer]
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There is a bright spot however.

It is definitely an experience worth remembering when you come across someone willing to reconsider their opinions (including oneself) and enter into genuine conversation and discussion.

Why, if I was right all the time, I would be Mr Trump.
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#320314 - 01/21/20 07:55 PM Re: My Obsessive Compulsion [Re: NW Ponderer]
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OR, you can live your life understanding that "s*** Happens" (get over it) That extends to just about everything and can't be controlled, just wondered at. Its interesting and notable but not your fault. What you are witnessing is a human condition. If you were 18 and wanted to save the world it might be a different story - I don't think you are and you know s*** Happens.

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#320319 - 01/21/20 08:37 PM Re: My Obsessive Compulsion [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Part of the problem may be your military career: Since you did have some rank, you got used to telling people what to do, and expecting them to do what you told them. I have never been in the military and have refused to enter management many times during my technical career, so I have never experienced anybody doing what I tell them. Including my wife. LOL

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#320320 - 01/21/20 08:47 PM Re: My Obsessive Compulsion [Re: NW Ponderer]
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#320332 - 01/21/20 09:07 PM Re: My Obsessive Compulsion [Re: Greger]
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I have felt the agony but hope despair is not the only result.
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#320337 - 01/21/20 10:14 PM Re: My Obsessive Compulsion [Re: rporter314]
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I always feel better after that scream though. Despair is like suicide...it's the easy way out.
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#320345 - 01/22/20 01:55 AM Re: My Obsessive Compulsion [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Believe it or not what is probably MOST NEEDED in this impeachment is a Howard Beale moment. Trump garners the support he has by being sensational/
Dems meanwhile, seem to think that being cerebral, technical and rational while having the facts in hand is the better approach.

IT ISN'T.
Yes, once you've grabbed their attention, small doses of all the above come in handy but at the outset, what grabs their attention is fire and bombast, and some pure sensationalism.
We need a loud, forceful and authoritative looking and sounding personality who will put on the tough guy act convincingly.

Remember when Duane Johnson did his famous "The Rock Obama" skits on SNL? Yeah sorry but a certain segment of indies find that irresistible.



And anything short of that gets interpreted the way the "Artist Dupicshun" got interpreted in Idiocracy.

"Bla bla bla you gotta believe me!"




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#320393 - 01/22/20 07:08 PM Re: My Obsessive Compulsion [Re: NW Ponderer]
Greger Offline


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Registered: 11/24/06
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Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
No, this is not a new diagnosis. I had a thought this morning, though, about why I do something over and over, without a rational belief that is it going to change anything. This is me:

I have found myself trying to convince people online of the error of their thinking (or lack thereof). I do it all the time, and I have yet to see it have an effect. I have described it as a Sisyphean task, a Pyrrhic effort, and, now, as a compulsion. I know, intellectually, that it will be ineffective and frustrating, but I continue to do it.

I am asking, my friends, for an intervention. Please help me stop trying to convince brain dead idiots, partisan ideologues, and Trump voters (as if they were somehow mutually exclusive) to change their minds. I know the research indicates that this is nearly impossible.

I listened, for as long as I could, this morning, as soulless Mitch McConnell stood in the well of the Senate and spouted misbegotten lie after blatant lie about the impeachment process. Yet, I knew, that no matter how vociferously and obviously he lied, there is a significant segment of the populace (many of whom are US Senators) that just doesn't care. It sickens me, it saddens me, it frustrates me no end. Unable to expurgate these feelings at home, I turn to the internet. And there my compulsion takes over.


Shame you don't come here and share your compulsion much anymore, I reckon we aren't wrong enough to stir up any interest.
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