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#321127 - 02/06/20 08:17 PM First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Okay so now that Bernie Sanders is potentially teeing up to be in the lead, or so it seems, there's worries as to how Donald Trump would attack him, yes?
So, what are the big worries about Bernie anyway?

Hmmmm, when he was a young man in his thirties or so, he wrote a bunch of raunchy stuff for fifty cents a word, back in the day when Playboy was running "The Happy Hooker" and National Lampoon was featuring raunch by no less than conservative pundit P.J. O'Rourke, and Larry Flynt was stretching the envelope over at Hustler Magazine.

He was a socialist mayor who propped up the Soviets back when we were on the brink of Glasnost, and he does have a few pet ideals that even a lot of lefties think are ridiculous and which are guaranteed to sink like a rock in Congress, like voting rights for convicted violent felons in prison and free healthcare for illegals.

But let me know when Bernie sexually assaults someone, mocks the disabled, tears a child from their parents, pays off a porn star, insults a gold star family, calls nazis fine people, denies science, steals from a charity, or starts a fake university.

Oh wait, his wife has something in her closet about a college...
what was it?

Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
According to 2017 news reports, the FBI was looking into allegations of possible bank fraud in connection with a $10 million loan Sanders helped Burlington College obtain in 2010 to purchase 33 acres of land from the Roman Catholic Diocese of Burlington. The investigation was launched after complaints were filed with the FBI in 2016 by Brady Toensing, chair of the Vermont Republican Party and Vermont campaign manager for then-candidate Donald Trump. His complaints alleged she had misrepresented the college's donor levels and pledges in the loan application. Bernie Sanders described the allegations by Trump's former campaign manager in Vermont as politically motivated and "nonsense". As of June 2017, Jane Sanders had retained counsel while the FBI investigated the matter.

On November 13, 2018, the U.S. Attorney in Vermont closed its investigation of the college land deal involving her and decided not to bring charges.


Brady Toensing? Is that Victoria Toensing's hubby? The lady who pals around with Rudy Giuliani?
Yeah sure, bring on the Jane Sanders investigation! That would be fun!

What else? Commie commie commie? Red baiting? Have fun with that!

Anyone else have anything they think Bernie needs to get ahead of before it bursts out of Trump's chest like a seething pus-filled boil?
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#321139 - 02/06/20 11:53 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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He’s not a Democrat

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#321147 - 02/07/20 02:04 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Sanders actually has many of the trappings of a unity candidate--he’s well known, he’s well liked by the rank-and-file, and his unwavering message has become a staple of party rhetoric even in the boardroom wing of the party. Most important of all, he actually has a message. Of everyone else in the race, only Warren has offered an actual reason for running. The two make similar cases: The U.S. economy and the U.S. political system are stacked against working people. It’s a good message, because it’s true.

Everyone else in the field, meanwhile, is offering an increasingly unpersuasive version of “I alone can beat Trump!” These candidates have little to say, because they aren’t targeting voters, they’re auditioning for donors. The real message isn’t “I can win,” it’s “I’ll make sure you’re still in charge.”
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If you ask me it's the other candidates who need to get ahead of what Sanders has done to them.
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#321149 - 02/07/20 02:24 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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He’s not a Democrat


Eh, close enough. Romney seems to be the last Republican left in the Senate. So Bernie would be running against fascists. Everybody left of Romney has to be close enough that everybody there should support him or her.

Besides, President Sanders could not create progressive legislation by himself. That's not a President's job. All he could do is sign or veto bills congress sends him, and congress is just not going to be far from the mainstream.

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#321163 - 02/07/20 04:23 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
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He’s not a Democrat


Eh, close enough.


Tom Perez promised he wasn't going to use the Debbie Schultz model.
I am starting to doubt him, though.

So, now that I am beginning to doubt his sincerity, I've reached the point where "proving you're a Democrat" is clearly a fool's errand because it is starting to sound like it's whatever Tom Perez says it is and I don't think that is very "democratic".

So okay, Bernie is a Democrat, he's NOT a Democrat...you know what?
It was foolish for me to EVER rationalize Bernie's fate in 2016 due to DNC rules because I was too dumb to realize that the DNC's rules are as consistent and solid as a bowl of Jell-O.

Whoever told me a year or two back that it shouldn't matter if he's "officially" a Dem or not was 100 percent right.
I don't give a flying frack if he's "officially" a Dem.
He's right for the party, and the party better wake up and catch up...

...because they're not going to stop what's coming.
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#321176 - 02/07/20 02:38 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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The mask is coming off the Democratic Party. Iowa was the opening salvo.
As Sanders continues to resonate with the voters he becomes more of a threat to the fortunes of the political establishment.

Yes, Tom Perez is trying to fix the Convention. Hillaries people were involved in the Iowa Shadow app. California is trying to impose primary rules to bar independents from the primary elections.

The s*** hogs and piss pigs are in full force and on display. I’ve said it many times before, the party power structure, consisting of hack consultants, lobbyists, fail sons and daughters and, most importantly, corporate donors, would rather keep their state rooms and go down with the ship than allow any leftist candidate to win the nomination.

They will burn it to the ground before they ever hit an unemployment line. They are what’s keeping good things from happening. Not the fascists in the Republican Party. They’re just enabled by the democrats.


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#321179 - 02/07/20 03:01 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
Hamish Howl Offline
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
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He’s not a Democrat


Eh, close enough. Romney seems to be the last Republican left in the Senate. So Bernie would be running against fascists. Everybody left of Romney has to be close enough that everybody there should support him or her.


You'd think.

I will be voting for "the candidate" in November, but I gotta say, there's a large segment of Sanders voters that make me not want to do that. I'm still going to.

My general impression is that the Bro sector of his vote go after the DNC because they lack the guts to go after Trump.
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#321180 - 02/07/20 03:31 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
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For decades the left has been hectored to vote for the right wing candidate.

It's amusing now that the party has to bend the knee to the left it comes down to the 'Bernie Bro' right wing Hillary smear.

Our revolution is not trying to convince. It moves around your kind of false criticism.

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#321181 - 02/07/20 03:49 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
For decades the left has been hectored to vote for the right wing candidate.

It's amusing now that the party has to bend the knee to the left it comes down to the 'Bernie Bro' right wing Hillary smear.

Our revolution is not trying to convince. It moves around your kind of false criticism.



That's good, because nobody wants to be convinced by wreckers.

You can be Holy™ all by yourselves.
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#321183 - 02/07/20 05:26 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
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My general impression is that the Bro sector of his vote go after the DNC because they lack the guts to go after Trump.


It doesn't take any guts to go after Trump. Everybody in the free world is going after Trump.

But nobody has the guts to go after the corporatist right-wing DNC but the social democrats.
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