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#321408 - 02/11/20 09:59 PM Re: Bro or NOT Bro? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Where on Earth did you find that?


On the internet...I been saving it for next time you mentioned inverted socialism.

If you turn socialism onto its head though, it simply becomes capitalism. So, like this inversion, it just doesn't work.
It's top heavy, stupid, and clumsy.
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#321412 - 02/12/20 12:38 AM Re: Bro or NOT Bro? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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Where on Earth did you find that?


On the internet...I been saving it for next time you mentioned inverted socialism.

If you turn socialism onto its head though, it simply becomes capitalism. So, like this inversion, it just doesn't work.
It's top heavy, stupid, and clumsy.



And not JUST "capitalism"...crony darwinian ayn randian predatory capitalism. It becomes the absolute very worst form of it.
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#321415 - 02/12/20 03:09 AM Re: Bro or NOT Bro? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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What we're witnessing here is not some perverse upside down form of socialism that benefits the bourgeoisie by exploiting the proletariat. It's end stage capitalism doing exactly what it was predicted to do.
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#321665 - 02/18/20 11:15 PM Re: Bro or NOT Bro? [Re: Hamish Howl]
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Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Greger
Anything but a win for Bernie is suspicious.



I am glad to see you are looking at this objectively.


I'll admit laugh I laughed.
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#321666 - 02/18/20 11:18 PM Re: Bro or NOT Bro? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
What we're witnessing here is not some perverse upside down form of socialism that benefits the bourgeoisie by exploiting the proletariat. It's end stage capitalism doing exactly what it was predicted to do.


.....allow me and my family to live in luxury undreamt-of by ancient emperors, with amenities and riches and abilities within my grasp that exceeds that of kings?


:sips his tea next to his propane log fire:

:texts a friend on a magical hand-held computer:

smile Good ole Capitalism

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#321669 - 02/18/20 11:29 PM Re: Bro or NOT Bro? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Interesting that no Socialists are running, yet they polled for that...

Seems to me, correct me if I'm wrong, the Democrats have a self-proclaimed Democratic Socialist running for their nomination.

Maybe I'm just uninformed. Are you saying that a "Socialist" and a "Democratic Socialist" are the same thing?


HA HA...except they aren't the same thing.


Is that like saying that Trumpism doesn't contain strains of fascism, but rather Democratic Fascism?


Democratic Socialism falls under the realm of Socialism, and Bernie has repeatedly claimed the title of Socialist for himself. Democratic is a qualifier. Socialism, the noun.
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#321672 - 02/19/20 12:37 AM Re: Bro or NOT Bro? [Re: CPWILL]
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And there is already a large dose of socialism in our government - since the beginning, in fact. It's baked into the Constitution. Why is the word so toxic to them of... of... what exactly is the preferred form of government of the antiso's, anyway?
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#321674 - 02/19/20 01:44 AM Re: Bro or NOT Bro? [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL


.....allow me and my family to live in luxury undreamt-of by ancient emperors, with amenities and riches and abilities within my grasp that exceeds that of kings?




Far as I know, we don't have anyone here with family ties to royalty past, present or future. And if you're making tech gee-gaws the hallmark of uber-rex amenities, fraid that fell short.

And I'll bet fifty bucks you're not crapping in a gold crapper either.
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#321682 - 02/19/20 12:38 PM Re: Bro or NOT Bro? [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL
Democratic Socialism falls under the realm of Socialism, and Bernie has repeatedly claimed the title of Socialist for himself. Democratic is a qualifier. Socialism, the noun.

When the government makes and spends money, is that Capitalism, or Socialism?

I’m trying to sort out what form of government we have.
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#321683 - 02/19/20 12:51 PM Re: Bro or NOT Bro? [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL
Democratic Socialism falls under the realm of Socialism, and Bernie has repeatedly claimed the title of Socialist for himself. Democratic is a qualifier. Socialism, the noun.

When the government makes and spends money, is that Capitalism, or Socialism?

I’m trying to sort out what form of government we have.

On reflection, perhaps Capitalism and Socialism are apples and oranges, as the latter is a mix of government and economic systems, while the former is (supposed to be) an economic system only.

But back to the core question, what system of government does the U.S. have?
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