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#321487 - 02/13/20 08:22 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
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Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: chunkstyle


Liberals prefer Trump to Sanders. Itís on display.


And progressives prefer Trump to liberals.

The combination of the two being why we are all [censored] doomed.


Aint it the truth?...But really, is it the truth?

The argument between liberals and progressives is the reason we're doomed? I guess by doomed you mean another Trump term? It won't be pleasant and I'd prefer either a liberal or a progressive president but it is what it is. The union will survive and progressive opposition will continue to grow. Boomers will continue to die, and eventually we will get that progressive government that we need to avoid the very doom that you predict.

It's the natural order of things. Pull your Marxian guidebook out and go over the highlighted sections again.

ďWithout revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement.Ē - V.I. Lenin
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#321489 - 02/13/20 08:30 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: chunkstyle


Liberals prefer Trump to Sanders. Itís on display.


And progressives prefer Trump to liberals.

The combination of the two being why we are all [censored] doomed.


Aint it the truth?...But really, is it the truth?

The argument between liberals and progressives is the reason we're doomed? I guess by doomed you mean another Trump term? It won't be pleasant and I'd prefer either a liberal or a progressive president but it is what it is. The union will survive and progressive opposition will continue to grow. Boomers will continue to die, and eventually we will get that progressive government that we need to avoid the very doom that you predict.

It's the natural order of things. Pull your Marxian guidebook out and go over the highlighted sections again.

ďWithout revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement.Ē - V.I. Lenin



Incrementalism is one of those things that sounds great in theory, but is rough on people on the ground.
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#321493 - 02/13/20 09:23 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
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Capitalism is pretty rough on the people on the ground too. Hence, more and more of the exploited proletariat will join forces with progressives to defeat the Bougies.

Incrementalism? You think we should take up arms, comrade? Abandon the fight at the ballot box?

Bernie leads some national poll by double digits now.
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#321500 - 02/14/20 06:28 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: jgw]
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Originally Posted By: jgw
I don't think they consider themselves to be socialist. I think the term, over there, is 'democratic socialist'.


But he plays one on TV. Thatís a problem.

Opinion Bernie Sanders Isnít a Socialist

Quote:
"So why does Sanders call himself a socialist? Iíd say that itís mainly about personal branding, with a dash of glee at shocking the bourgeoisie. And this self-indulgence did no harm as long as he was just a senator from a very liberal state."



--I've already made this very comment for years...YEARS.
Bernie is a social democrat, he's not a socialist, but he thinks it's cute to brand himself as such as a poke in the eye of the bougies.

But the Republi-bougies are like the tattle-tale six year old girls in the schoolyard, the ones who live to "go tell" and get other kids in trouble. Most Demo-bougies are just too timid to do anything but cluck their tongues in curt disapproval, mainly to curry small favor with the Republi-bougies.

This sh!t is writ large in our current schoolyard and in any schoolyard, the smart ones learn how to mount a distraction to keep the tattletales occupied.

Often one just needs to use a symbol, it works well on the "symbol-minded".
Some just call it "crossover marketing".



I'm totally good with being in the company of Mr. Krugman. wink
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#321504 - 02/14/20 03:27 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger

Bernie leads some national poll by double digits now.


I love that he's growing longer legs.
I hope that somehow his message can somehow transcend ID's and labels.
Hey, it is possible. Even I admit it's possible and I always worry about the masses who are conditioned to be frightened by "The S Word".
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#321506 - 02/14/20 03:34 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Greger

Bernie leads some national poll by double digits now.


I love that he's growing longer legs.
I hope that somehow his message can somehow transcend ID's and labels.
Hey, it is possible. Even I admit it's possible and I always worry about the masses who are conditioned to be frightened by "The S Word".


They're more troubled, apparently, but the attack on social security and on the 16% cut to the CDC that Trump is jabbering about during the Covid epidemic.

This is what the dems should be running on, IMO.
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#321511 - 02/14/20 06:05 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Loc: Whittier, California
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Greger

Bernie leads some national poll by double digits now.


I love that he's growing longer legs.
I hope that somehow his message can somehow transcend ID's and labels.
Hey, it is possible. Even I admit it's possible and I always worry about the masses who are conditioned to be frightened by "The S Word".


They're more troubled, apparently, but the attack on social security and on the 16% cut to the CDC that Trump is jabbering about during the Covid epidemic.

This is what the dems should be running on, IMO.


Here's something to ponder.
Immediately after announcing his run, Mike Bloomberg promised that if he did not win the Democratic nomination, that he would gladly hand over his resources to help the Dem winner.
Would he really do that, keep his promise, if Bernie was the winner?
I guarantee you that Bernie will work with anybody, he has worked with the most conservative Republicans in Congress before, cheerfully.

OMG can you imagine Bernie and Bloomy arm in arm?
It would literally make Trump's head explode! LOL
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#321515 - 02/14/20 07:30 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Looks like the left is showing it's chops meme'ing and guerilla film making.

Funny stuff out for valentines day from the 'bernie bro's:

=68.ARAE2wwa1CeHo1O_uI3gb9rnZhpx1YI0Re0c...1 833 not me us

Not up on youtubes yet. Gotta love the up and coming talent pitching in for Bernie

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#321516 - 02/14/20 07:35 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Looks like it's gettin down to the oligarch authoritarian with pedo friends and a populist socialist that hates women.

Capitol vs. People

And it's still in the primaries!

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#321517 - 02/14/20 07:46 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Loc: Tucson, AZ
Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Looks like it's gettin down to the oligarch authoritarian with pedo friends and a populist socialist that hates women.

Capitol vs. People

And it's still in the primaries!


You're calling it with 1% of delegates committed?
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