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#321288 - 02/09/20 08:28 PM Re: Thorium Reactor [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I am curious. How much time have you spent in India? The reason I ask is because India does not, on purpose, keep large parts of their population in "inferior roles". I am not even sure what that means. They do have a poor underclass. We are headed that way ourselves, right now.

The problem is simple - JOBS! All governments, with that problem have things they do to try and ameliorate it. One way was one I saw in Hong Kong, years ago. A hotel was cutting its lawn and they had people, literally, out cutting the lawn with scissors! I am sure you would consider that to be somewhat humiliating. The simple fact was, however, that it was a JOB!@ (and jobs rarely humiliate). I know this because I went out and talked to one. He was actually grateful to have the job!
I can, if you want, give you some examples from India but they are all similar. Which, incidentally, sometimes involves beggars (often considered a job in India)

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#321309 - 02/10/20 02:21 PM Re: Thorium Reactor [Re: jgw]
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I am not even sure what that means.


It means someone is low caste.

Or, more recently, Muslim.
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#321318 - 02/10/20 07:55 PM Re: Thorium Reactor [Re: Hamish Howl]
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In 1948, negative discrimination on the basis of caste was banned by law and further enshrined in the Indian constitution, however the system continues to be practiced in India with devastating social effects
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#321351 - 02/11/20 09:44 AM Re: Thorium Reactor [Re: jgw]
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It may be illegal for the government to discriminate, but it's still deeply embedded in the culture.

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#321382 - 02/11/20 07:05 PM Re: Thorium Reactor [Re: jgw]
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India is a pretty strange place. I have heard that there are actually low cast Indians who have done well and actually reached the millionaire place. I don't know any but Indians (dot) have told me that.

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#321388 - 02/11/20 07:29 PM Re: Thorium Reactor [Re: jgw]
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India is a pretty strange place. I have heard that there are actually low cast Indians who have done well and actually reached the millionaire place. I don't know any but Indians (dot) have told me that.


The now deceased wife of my old video partner in TX went to India to work on a docu piece and she spent a month there living and working among them.

Caste mentality is still somewhat "baked into" the social consciousness, unfortunately.
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#321417 - 02/12/20 03:57 AM Re: Thorium Reactor [Re: jgw]
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Of course: Even a hereditary corpse-handler can create a funeral home chain and strike it rich. But he's never going to invited to the upper caste's garden parties. His son is never going to marry a Brahman's daughter.

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#321440 - 02/12/20 07:57 PM Re: Thorium Reactor [Re: jgw]
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Yep... All that being said I can think of exactly the same circumstances here - with exactly the same results. We too have a kindofa caste system, its just not thought of that way. I suspect what we are talking about here is called "social stratification" and its pretty endemic.

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#321458 - 02/13/20 12:31 AM Re: Thorium Reactor [Re: jgw]
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It all comes back to the struggle between the Bourgeoisie and the Proletariat....
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#321488 - 02/13/20 08:29 PM Re: Thorium Reactor [Re: jgw]
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Pretty much............ There are, however, differences. If you consider Russia, for instance, where they treated their downtrodden like slaves for a very long time before they actually got pissed off.

As story. I live in the state of Washington. The state capital is in a town called Olympia. So, During the great depression there was a march on the state capital by those upset, broke, and pissed off. There was a couple of Russians watching it all. They were hugely amazed. All the marchers drove to Olympia in their cars. In Russia, they said, the poor did not have cars. American must be a rich country indeed!

This was told to me by a professor of philosophy. he was an interesting guy. He had lost his job because he had been a Communist due to McCarthy. He told me that he took a look at the stock market which allowed people to buy a stake in various means of production. That was when he quit the party. (he later got his job back)

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