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#321645 - 02/18/20 07:18 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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You guys are more Trump than Trump, really.

Does it frighten you that Bernie might win?

Why?


No. Bernie is one of my two preferred candidates, and events have led me to believe that I will be voting for him in the primary (Warren is 6' under water and sinking fast). I have no problem with Bernie, and I'd be perfectly happy if he won. Thrilled, as a matter of fact.

It's the toxicity of some of his followers that is of concern.
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#321646 - 02/18/20 07:19 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
I liked you better free versing Hunter Thompson.


Um, what?

I'm a big fan of his, but I am unsure what you are talking about.
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#321647 - 02/18/20 07:20 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: jgw]
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Originally Posted By: jgw
I think I am getting even more confused. I have now read that "Bernie is winning" "all the wins of Bernie", etc. As far as I can tell he has actually had two seriously marginal wins and that's it. I will give in on the crowds for Bernie but the simple fact remains. Two candidates, Ami and Mayor Whatever, both of which are running in the same space if put together beat the hell out of Bernie. When you add in Bloomberg it really gets serious. From what I can gather the far left wing of the Democratic party is approximately 20% to 25% of the Democratic party.

This being the case the major problem of those who don't want Bernie is that they have too many choices to make and have split up 75% of the Democratic party. So, them not with Bernie, but part of the Democratic party, will, at some point, lose or start cutting deals should the Dems beat Trump. In that realm it will turn into a who gets what sort of deal. Lots to deal with there; vice president, a number of agencies up for grabs, state, etc.

I suspect that will get kinda interesting all on its own?


So long as the center vote stays split, Sanders is ahead. And I don't see any of the other center candidates dropping out for the benefit of another.
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#321652 - 02/18/20 07:49 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
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Your recent ‘your the enemy’ or ‘your too toxic’ doesn’t really say much other than some kind of ‘if your not with us your against us’ philosophy, I guess. It’s not really saying anything as far as I can tell except to throw mean girl shade or display some indignation.
Whats your point? Your aggrieved?

I’d rather read your initial free verse stylings is all I’m saying. At least it’s clear there isn’t one.


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#321657 - 02/18/20 08:55 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Your recent ‘your the enemy’ or ‘your too toxic’ doesn’t really say much other than some kind of ‘if your not with us your against us’ philosophy, I guess. It’s not really saying anything as far as I can tell except to throw mean girl shade or display some indignation.
Whats your point? Your aggrieved?

I’d rather read your initial free verse stylings is all I’m saying. At least it’s clear there isn’t one.


Well, what of it? You are exerting a great deal of effort to make sure that anyone not entirely sold on Sanders will hate Sanders.

I am only curious as to your motivation.
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#321667 - 02/18/20 11:22 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
chunkstyle Offline
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I’m not here to sell anyone on my choice. I doubt anyone’s mind is changed due to online posting.

Unless it’s the ingenious Slavs posting..

I enjoy pointing out contradictions and what I view as manufactured BS. Like ‘Bernie bro’s narratives, liberal ‘norms and values’ Hypocrisy, historical evidence to contrary economic or political fictions, etc...

Convincing liberals and conservatives on who to vote for is a fools errand. They will vote their economic/class interest as I do mine.


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#321671 - 02/19/20 12:06 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
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Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
So long as the center vote stays split, Sanders is ahead. And I don't see any of the other center candidates dropping out for the benefit of another.


It reminds me very much of a movie I saw four years-ish ago.
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#321676 - 02/19/20 03:43 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: CPWILL]
chunkstyle Offline
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Very much so. Both parties have lost legitimacy with larger numbers of voters and the Democratic Party can’t resolve around a winning candidate to beat back a popular insurgent.

While Trump had broad popular support with the base that republicans took for granted, Sanders has broad popular support with similar dismissed base of voters while fending off the Democratic Party establishment and Republican Plutocrat set against him in the Democratic primary.

It seems like only yesterday that the complaints of Sanders not being a Democrat was being argued against his primary bid.

Bloomberg’s candidacy, not so much. Funny how that works in the self styled ‘left’ party.



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#321677 - 02/19/20 09:47 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Poll after poll, Bernie leads the Dem pack for the nomination, and beats Trump by +2. smile
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#321678 - 02/19/20 09:51 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Even Nate Silvers says it's Bernie. smile
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