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#321733 - 02/20/20 06:51 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
Greger Offline


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I won $5 betting against a brokered Republican convention in 2016.

But it was a lot later in the game.

My current model shows Klobuchar, Biden, and Bloomberg out after Super Tuesday. If not out of the race, then out of the picture. If the Party was gonna slip in a dark horse like Bloomberg, they needed a great orator. They needed charisma. They needed charm and wit.

They needed the man to match up with the advertising campaign.

They got this instead...
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#321736 - 02/20/20 10:08 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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"They need the left to win" Interesting - that.......

Given that it seems that the left is the group most likely to bail I would submit that they are a smaller group, in the Democratic party, than the middle, etc. I think you are referring, as the left, those who support Bernie. I doubt others will bail and those who refuse all if Bernie is not anointed. They have already proven they will either not vote at all or vote for Trump in such circumstances.

My own attitude that, if that happens then screw 'em.

I just want Trump gone - all the rest of that political stuff is actually of no real interest to me.

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#321738 - 02/20/20 10:29 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Yeah,

Your Sanders/nazi/Trump voter axis of denial is humerus but hardly relevant to anyone but the well off.

People have real needs and problems so it may be that there’s a little more at stake than your political sensibilities being offended by the current occupant of the White House.

Apparently, addressing those needs and problems from the left is one big blob without any differentiation than if it is being made from the far right.

Derisive dismissal has actually played into the lefts hands. I’m not sure your mischaracterization and smearing of left wing politics will do anything for you, JGW, cept display your contempt.

Meanwhile...

Backing in California Poll Hints at Big Delegate Haul

That’s a lot of lefty crybabies....




Edited by chunkstyle (02/20/20 10:31 PM)

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#321739 - 02/20/20 11:37 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
CPWILL Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
I think Amy Klobuchar would be a decent running mate because (A) she has the endorsement and respect of the Minnesota DFL, which was Paul Wellstone and Al Franken's old bunch, (B) she's "Minnesota Nice", and (C) she's competent.

Amy is like Marge Gunderson in the movie "Fargo"...a little bit flat-footed, a bit boring, but determined as heck, dontcha know. Just wind her up and she'll go out and getcha the bad guys, you betcha.


Coming from agreeably a conservative perspective, it does strike me that Kloubachar would be a good pick to round out the ticket, and would be a pick that wouldn't alienate many people.

OTOH, she also wouldn't bring that much to the ticket in terms of coalition building. Bernie has young African Americans, but, I think, (It's been a while since I checked) still lags behind the "traditional Dem" types in picking up older minority voters.

I don't know, however, if Stacey Abrams solves that for him.
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#321740 - 02/21/20 12:15 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Your Sanders/nazi/Trump voter axis of denial is humerus but hardly relevant to anyone but the well off.

That hit my funny bone!

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#321742 - 02/21/20 01:19 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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You should see my texting.
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#321753 - 02/21/20 12:49 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
pdx rick Offline
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Originally Posted By: Greger
My current model shows Klobuchar, Biden, and Bloomberg out after Super Tuesday. If not out of the race, then out of the picture. If the Party was gonna slip in a dark horse like Bloomberg, they needed a great orator. They needed charisma. They needed charm and wit.

They needed the man to match up with the advertising campaign.

They got this instead...

In another post about Bernie winning the nom that i wrote, in those numbers, I see Bloomberg only winning Oklahoma. smile
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#321756 - 02/21/20 03:30 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: CPWILL]
chunkstyle Offline
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I’ll always like Klobuchar for going after that office rat and stomping him with her sensible shoes. She’s won some warmth, I think, from the Sanders crowd.

Ditto, Warren, for that beat down she gave the business tycoon. She could have been formidable, maybe unassailable, to Sanders if she brought that game from the beginning.

Both those Ladies ought to get banking/accounting positions and thrown at the pentagon like a Malatov. An organization of contractors that hundreds of auditors cant account for decades now.

A sanders administration would be nice to think about for a change. But that convention.... I think it’s gunna be rough.

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#321760 - 02/21/20 07:08 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
jgw Offline
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Hopefully all of you guys who know what's going to happen have gone to predictit and bet all your money? You will be RICH! Then, again, its also possible to lose your shirts. Been there, done that..........

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#321763 - 02/21/20 07:30 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
jgw Offline
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I wonder if anybody has taken a look at Bernie's work in the United States Senate. He has run up quite a record of doing nothing pretty much outstripping just about anybody else. He is, if nothing else, a virtual expert in legislative failure. This being the case why in the world would anybody believe a single one of his promises when he has consistently failed for years.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357/report-card/2019

Basically Ami Klobuchar beats his pants off!

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