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#321765 - 02/21/20 08:03 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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But that convention.... I think itís gunna be rough.


Maybe...maybe not. It's too early in the voting process to start worrying about it. We're basically in a holding pattern until Super Tuesday. Nevada and South Carolina will likely add more confusion and turmoil but we should emerge with some clarity after March 3rd.

This is Bernie's chance to catch fire. His final chance. The stars and planets are aligned, the winds favourable. We just have to wait for the actual events to unfold...
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#321769 - 02/21/20 08:31 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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But that convention.... I think itís gunna be rough.


Maybe...maybe not. It's too early in the voting process to start worrying about it. We're basically in a holding pattern until Super Tuesday. Nevada and South Carolina will likely add more confusion and turmoil but we should emerge with some clarity after March 3rd.

This is Bernie's chance to catch fire. His final chance. The stars and planets are aligned, the winds favourable. We just have to wait for the actual events to unfold...


At current, FiveThirtyEight has "No One" leading for "who will have a majority of delegates going into the convention" (with 42%).

Bernie is coming in second with 36%, and after that it's a steep drop to Biden at 11%.


I think the key question is: Do Anti-Sanders Democrats pull off what Anti-Trump Republicans couldn't, and unify behind a single non-Sanders candidate, or do three contenders continue to split them so that Sanders/Trump can continue to win with a plurality of support.


Edited by CPWILL (02/21/20 08:32 PM)
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#321772 - 02/21/20 08:46 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL
Originally Posted By: Greger
Quote:
But that convention.... I think itís gunna be rough.


Maybe...maybe not. It's too early in the voting process to start worrying about it. We're basically in a holding pattern until Super Tuesday. Nevada and South Carolina will likely add more confusion and turmoil but we should emerge with some clarity after March 3rd.

This is Bernie's chance to catch fire. His final chance. The stars and planets are aligned, the winds favourable. We just have to wait for the actual events to unfold...


At current, FiveThirtyEight has "No One" leading for "who will have a majority of delegates going into the convention" (with 42%).

Bernie is coming in second with 36%, and after that it's a steep drop to Biden at 11%.


I think the key question is: Do Anti-Sanders Democrats pull off what Anti-Trump Republicans couldn't, and unify behind a single non-Sanders candidate, or do three contenders continue to split them so that Sanders/Trump can continue to win with a plurality of support.


All you have to do is talk two of them into quitting.

None of them seem ready to do so.
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#321774 - 02/21/20 09:50 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Heís a front runner in amendments, attracting bipartisan support for them to boot.
Or are we not looking at that? Whatís the rules say?

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#321775 - 02/21/20 09:53 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
chunkstyle Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl


All you have to do is talk two of them into quitting.

None of them seem ready to do so.


How does having two candidates dropping out stop Sanders achieving a plurality?


Edited by chunkstyle (02/21/20 10:50 PM)

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#321793 - 02/22/20 01:55 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
CPWILL Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: CPWILL
Originally Posted By: Greger
Quote:
But that convention.... I think itís gunna be rough.


Maybe...maybe not. It's too early in the voting process to start worrying about it. We're basically in a holding pattern until Super Tuesday. Nevada and South Carolina will likely add more confusion and turmoil but we should emerge with some clarity after March 3rd.

This is Bernie's chance to catch fire. His final chance. The stars and planets are aligned, the winds favourable. We just have to wait for the actual events to unfold...


At current, FiveThirtyEight has "No One" leading for "who will have a majority of delegates going into the convention" (with 42%).

Bernie is coming in second with 36%, and after that it's a steep drop to Biden at 11%.


I think the key question is: Do Anti-Sanders Democrats pull off what Anti-Trump Republicans couldn't, and unify behind a single non-Sanders candidate, or do three contenders continue to split them so that Sanders/Trump can continue to win with a plurality of support.


All you have to do is talk two of them into quitting.

None of them seem ready to do so.


It reminds me very much of the GOP side in 2016. Everyone wants to be the candidate others drop out to support against the insurgent who's interested in burning down the party, but who you think would be a disaster.... and no one who thinks that other candidate would be a disaster is willing to sacrifice their own campaign to stop it. Vanity, Obstinance, and Self-Interest.


Edited by CPWILL (02/22/20 01:56 AM)
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#321800 - 02/22/20 04:59 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: CPWILL]
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At current, FiveThirtyEight has "No One" leading for "who will have a majority of delegates going into the convention" (with 42%).

I swear to God, Right-wingers are the biggest bullshyte artists. mad



...just like I wrote on 02/19/20. smile
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#321801 - 02/22/20 05:02 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL
Do Anti-Sanders Democrats pull off what Anti-Trump Republicans couldn't, and unify behind a single non-Sanders candidate, or do three contenders continue to split them so that Sanders/Trump can continue to win with a plurality of support.

Get used to saying President Sanders, bro. laugh
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#321816 - 02/22/20 03:45 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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At work the other day, I discussing all things politics with a co-worker and I said that in 2016, it should have been Bernie, but Debbie Wasserman-Schultz made sure it was "her turn."

My co-worker in life said that it is not often that people get a second chance to vote for the right person - it will happen this time.

No truer words were spoken. smile
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#321819 - 02/22/20 06:14 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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In 2016 people got a second chance to vote for Hillary Clinton who was narrowly defeated by Obama in the 2008 Primaries.
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