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#322695 - 03/10/20 11:33 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
Ujest Shurly Offline
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I have hope that there will be no reelection of President Donald (...) Trump* The Mayor of my little home town, 130,000 people, came out publicly for Joe Biden, and will vote for him and against President Donald (...) Trump*. The Mayor, a life long Republican.


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#322711 - 03/11/20 12:42 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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It's pretty much becoming an existential crisis now. People are starting to see that Trump in charge means a lot of them are going to die. We are seeing the House of Cards starting to crumble. I would not be too surprised if many of the age > 70 candidates for office are dead by November. We could wind up with President Buttigieg or Yang.

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#322715 - 03/11/20 04:27 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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And just now Biden made one more conciliatory gesture to the Left wing of the party.
Sure, it may have been rather bland and generic, but I tend to ascribe that to cautiously dipping a toe in the water, so I call it a good first move.

Joe Biden To Bernie Sanders And His Supporters: We Share A Common Goal

More of that, Joe..and next time offer some specifics. smile
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#323019 - 03/18/20 02:29 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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The Democratrc race is over. Voters have picked Joe Biden

I love how foreigners and the rightwing echo-machine tells Dems who their nominee for POTUS is... coffee
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#323021 - 03/18/20 03:34 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Some one please tell me what the major ideological differences are between Biden and Trump? Not what your television is telling you now but their actual records?

Trump hasn't voted to kill a million innocent people is all I can think of.


Edited by chunkstyle (03/18/20 04:12 PM)

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#323022 - 03/18/20 03:35 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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AIPAC?

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#323024 - 03/18/20 05:03 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Ujest Shurly]
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Quote:
I have hope that there will be no reelection


In a sane world you could pretty much take that to the bank...

Unfortunately Bizarro World grows more bizarre by the day. The President has invoked wartime powers which give him direct control of private business.
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#323027 - 03/18/20 05:32 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Some one please tell me what the major ideological differences are between Biden and Trump? Not what your television is telling you now but their actual records?

Trump hasn't voted to kill a million innocent people is all I can think of.

Trump hasn't been voting on legislation for the last 40 years so his record is somewhat lacking in votes to compare to Biden's.
Trump has no ideology beyond personal greed. Biden none beyond political greed. Both are attention whores who enjoy the limelight.

Both are centrists so there isn't much difference ideologically. One is a civil servant, one is self serving. Ideology isn't everything.
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#323028 - 03/18/20 05:36 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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What about body count?
Impoverishment?
Imprisonment?

I see Trump coming out on top, ironically.

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#323032 - 03/18/20 06:23 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Registered: 05/22/06
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Loc: Port Angeles, WA
Trump true believers remain and they continue to believe! They believe when Trump tries to reduce medicare, medicaid and Social Security. They seem to have ignored his complete catastrophe insofar as Covid-19 is concerned. They just continue to dote on the man. I am a little depressed because he seems to have forgotten he was going to have a rally in Florida but that also seems to make no difference. They also, however, seem to be completely ignoring the Covid-19 thing, think social space is a joke, still shake hands, etc. so one can only wonder how that's going to turn out?

There was a time when I used to think, from one disaster to the next, that some would figure out that the man is ignorant, silly, incompetent and dangerous. I don't anymore - they are determined and not competent to feed themselves let alone acting in their own best interest.

You are flat out right about the 70+ candidates are at risk. I too am wondering if they are going to survive. That would mean that the Dems would have to have a convention which would also mean that a lot of Dems would also die.

As usual, in the fullness of time.............

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