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#322218 - 02/29/20 02:11 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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We will not survive four more years of him.


We may not have a choice. If Bernie is the voters favorite and the party pulls the rug out from under him we might very well get four more years of him. If Bernie gets the nomination and the blue no matter who crowd rejects him we might get four more years of him.
If Republicans and JGW are right and Bernie can not beat Trump because he's a socialist...we will get four more years of him.

I think Bernie's gonna win the nomination handily and just as handily defeat Trump in November. So the next question is...

Will we survive four years of Bernie Sanders? Will Bernie Sanders survive four more years? Will any of us survive four more years...?
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#322224 - 02/29/20 02:33 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Ken Condon]
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Originally Posted By: Ken Condon
Party's mean absolutely nothing to me, but candidates mean everything.

Well stated perotista. I could not have phrased that better myself if I had tried.

I don’t post much here anymore as I feel I have already stated pretty much what I believe. And how I view the world. But I lurk and am keeping on eye on you folks.

cool

Carry on...

I thank you. I do a lot of just hanging around too. I'll post an interesting article or some poll numbers to see how folks will respond, if they do. I like to study the numbers and watch trends develop. There could be a very interesting one taking shape which after Super Tuesday, I'll know if it is or isn't.

Numbers can be very telling if one pays attention to them. Not so much for the numbers themselves, but for the trends they point out.
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#322226 - 02/29/20 02:45 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: perotista]
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Not so much for the numbers themselves, but for the trends they point out.


I don't watch the numbers as much as I watch the trends themselves. My goal is to spot the trends before the polls do.
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#322227 - 02/29/20 04:22 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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We will not survive four more years of him.


We may not have a choice. If Bernie is the voters favorite and the party pulls the rug out from under him we might very well get four more years of him. If Bernie gets the nomination and the blue no matter who crowd rejects him we might get four more years of him.
If Republicans and JGW are right and Bernie can not beat Trump because he's a socialist...we will get four more years of him.

I think Bernie's gonna win the nomination handily and just as handily defeat Trump in November. So the next question is...

Will we survive four years of Bernie Sanders? Will Bernie Sanders survive four more years? Will any of us survive four more years...?







We'll survive ANYONE better than we will survive Trump.
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#322235 - 02/29/20 01:23 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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Not so much for the numbers themselves, but for the trends they point out.


I don't watch the numbers as much as I watch the trends themselves. My goal is to spot the trends before the polls do.

I'm in total agreement. This is why I'm watching South Carolina. The trend there from 1 Feb through 22 Feb was all Sanders. Since 22 Feb it's been all Biden. The question is, is this trend limited to South Carolina with its huge black vote in the democratic primary or is it a beginning nationwide.

Right now it has the look that blacks are returning to Biden to the point where he had 55% support among them nationally on 1 Feb. Whites continue to flock to Sanders. So the effect could be limited to states with a large black democratic primary vote.

We'll know more after South Carolina and Super Tuesday if that is happening. Watch South Carolina, Alabama, Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee. What I've been seeing nationally is Sanders is extra strong among whites, strong among Hispanics, weak among blacks.
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#322242 - 02/29/20 05:30 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Interesting stats on 3 big Super Tuesday States. This is as of this AM.

Texas Blacks 39-21 for Biden
Hispanics 27-23 Sanders
Whites 30-19 Sanders

Virginia Blacks 37-18 Biden
Whites 23-10 Sanders
No Hispanic breakdown

North Carolina Blacks 36-16 Biden
Whites 30-18 Sanders
Hispanics 26-8 Sanders

It'll be interesting to see the exit polls for these 3 states. It seems as of this AM that the White/Hispanic coalition should lead Sanders to the nomination if it holds up.
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#322332 - 03/02/20 12:37 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Pete is out. Hmm
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#322336 - 03/02/20 05:20 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Bernie will take Virginia and Texas on Super Tuesday. You heard it here first. Bow

Bernie will also take CA, CO, and WI. smile
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#322340 - 03/02/20 11:44 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Pete is out. Hmm


Yea, he needs more time in the oven and a Governorship and then he'll be back and be a strong contender. Hope to see that.
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#322352 - 03/02/20 06:54 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Amy just dropped-out. Will endorse ol' Joe.

Hmm
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