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#323205 - 03/22/20 07:36 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Yeah. Aunt Nancy's stingy, means testing proposal seems to have gotten a lot of scorn. I'm more and more convinced with the parties behavior in the last three election cycles that the Democratic party is little more now than the H.R. department of the Republican party.

It won't even back a progressive without republican approval.

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#323211 - 03/22/20 07:56 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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They are supposed to do politics.


I think the House has "done politics" in passing well over 400 bills the senate is just ignoring. Again, I ask: What more are they supposed to do? Stand on street corners and curse? I think they are going on TV political shows and talking about all the things we should be and should not be doing. Just because you are not watching those shows is not their fault.

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#323342 - 03/24/20 10:59 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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#323347 - 03/25/20 01:18 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: CPWILL]
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I'm not a bit surprised, I fully expect Sanders to keep going all the way to the convention exactly like he did in 2016. I would have been really surprised if Sanders decided to withdraw.

Not much going on in April, 4 Apr we have Hawaii, Alaska and Wyoming. 7 Apr is Wisconsin. Then on the 28th comes Pennsylvania, New York, Rhode Island and Delaware. That's it.

Today, Sanders trails Biden by 11 in Wisconsin, by 29 in Pennsylvania, by 17 in New York. The rest don't have enough delegates to look them up in the polls. Lots of time left to allow Sanders to shrink Biden's lead in those states. One never knows what may happen or what unforeseen event or mistake could take place. But if my math is right, each state awards delegates a bit different, but all are proportional. Sanders would have to win all the remaining states by an average of 25 points to catch Biden.
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#323355 - 03/25/20 01:12 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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He won’t do it but he should threaten to split the party and mean it if he doesn’t extract concessions from the DNC. No more kneecapping down ballot leftists or progressive, a reorienting of the party to people and not corporate money. Get rid of the super delegates. Go back to paper ballots with transparent counting.
He won’t. Many voters will fall away in the general.

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#323362 - 03/25/20 07:19 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Many voters will fall away in the general.


Then you deserve whatever happens to you.
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#323371 - 03/26/20 02:36 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Millions that voted for Obama got screwed out of their houses. Unions got screwed voting for Clinton.

I guess by that logic they got what they deserved.

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#323373 - 03/26/20 04:55 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Millions that voted for Obama got screwed out of their houses. Unions got screwed voting for Clinton.

I guess by that logic they got what they deserved.



What are we talking about, the subprime mortgage meltdown?
Are you saying that Obama's policies and actions to combat that crisis made things worse than they would have been absent those actions?

Is there any specific thing that he did that specifically was aimed at screwing over homeowners, specifically tied to the meltdown, like some kind of executive order that hurt these people?

What time frame are you referring to?
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#323376 - 03/26/20 11:41 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
2007-2008 housing collapse.

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#323377 - 03/26/20 11:48 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Is there any specific thing that he did that specifically was aimed at screwing over homeowners, specifically tied to the meltdown, like some kind of executive order that hurt these people?

Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Yes.

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
What time frame are you referring to?

Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
2007-2008 housing collapse.

Welp, BAMZ!!! was not prezzie until January 20, 2009. BAMZ!!! was a great president, but I doubt his poliices could effect us Americans prior to him becoming prezzie.

But, your mileage may vary. coffee
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