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#326294 - 06/01/20 10:15 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: logtroll]
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'At's what I said, greed. Maybe I should have said, stupid greed?

Stupid greed? Nah. Plenty of intelligent people take part in bubbles - in fact, the vast majority of active folks do (that's why they are bubbles). Were American's greedy because they wanted to own homes? Because they thought that, when digital tech began to explode, that it was incredible and kinda magical? That would require such a loose definition of "greed" as to make the term meaningless.
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#326298 - 06/01/20 11:15 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: CPWILL]
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I see you are impervious to reality. At least so far...
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#326316 - 06/02/20 05:46 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: logtroll]
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Exploitation of the workforce is not recognized by the petit bourgeois. Nor the lumpenproles.

Revolutions are never easy.
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#326323 - 06/02/20 07:52 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Exploitation of the workforce is not recognized by the petit bourgeois. Nor the lumpenproles.

Revolutions are never easy.


In a system of free exchange where that workforce has options, employment is a mutually beneficial trade. I don't go to work simply because I like it - I go because they give me a combination of cash and benefits to do so.
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#326333 - 06/03/20 04:31 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: CPWILL]
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And so no exploitation exists? Like I said.
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#326340 - 06/03/20 04:32 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Whenever people bring up the ways the system has failed so many Americans - there are always naysayers – always white, usually men, often pretty well off – who say, how can you be so negative? Why do you want to dwell on all the worst parts of history? Don’t you love our country?
My response to our country’s naysayers and sunshine patriots is this: how can you be so pessimistic as to believe this is the best we can do? Do you really think that the American people – with our ingenuity and optimism and tenacity – do you really think we can’t create a fairer economy and a more just government?
Do you truly believe we can’t have a society that works for everyone – black and white and brown, women and men, no matter who you are or what kind of work you do?

Senator Sherrod Brown (D) Ohio
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#326346 - 06/03/20 06:29 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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#326365 - 06/04/20 01:23 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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And so no exploitation exists? Like I said.

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