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#324324 - 04/13/20 01:59 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
There is a third answer which I have been screaming for months.

Shall we review it again?

Joe Biden isn't going to be a very good president.
His vice president won't be anybody special.
After plodding through an economic recovery Democrats will lose in 2024.
Republicans will hold the White House for the next eight years.
Democrats may or may not not regain power in 2032.

Or else...

Donald Trump is a terrible president. But if he gets re-elected he's going to get bogged down in that same economic recovery and will bungle it mightily. The Republican brand will be utterly destroyed and Democrats will win in 2024 and hold the White House until 2032 and beyond.

That right there seems impossible for anyone to digest as long as they've got Trump stuck in their craw.

Let's go Back back back! Back to a normal time! Only Joe can take us back to a better time!

Evahbody sez NO! IT CAN"T HAPPEN HERE! Once Trump is gone erything will be COOL!

An I sez hide and watch, dudes! Hide and watch.


All the signs and all Trump's actions points to no such thing as an economic recovery. All his signs and actions point to dictatorship and total dissolution of the republic as we know it.

There will not BE any economic recovery to bungle, there will be a carbon copy of Viktor Orban's rule by decree.

And something that resembles a slow moving civil war, which might or might not speed up, but it doesn't matter, because regardless the pace, it will eat up whatever remains.

There won't BE any political parties anymore, there will the cult.
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#324325 - 04/13/20 02:38 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Golly that sounds a lot more likely to happen than regular elections.

You're probably right Jeffery and we should all just go ahead and kill ourselves.
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#324327 - 04/13/20 02:55 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Golly that sounds a lot more likely to happen than regular elections.

You're probably right Jeffery and we should all just go ahead and kill ourselves.



You said that, I didn't.
Show me one thing that proves that the elections will be secure, and show me one thing that limits what Trump will do if he wins.
Show me one thing that proves that a Congress, even one with Democratic majorities, will be able to stop him AND ALSO get anything done.
The only way Dems in Congress could get anything done with Trump still in office is if they have supermajorities in both branches, which is impossible this time around.
Thus Mitch will simply do what he used to do, filibuster EVERYTHING.

I assume you watched the impeachment in the Senate.
That's closer to what we can expect if they keep the Senate and Trump wins again.
The fact is, Trump is now above the law, and he will finish shredding the Constitution if he wins, and no one and nothing will stop him.
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#324331 - 04/13/20 03:20 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Loading the pistol right now...
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#324332 - 04/13/20 03:20 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Loading the pistol right now...


Unfortunately, it's a bit too late for that.

Trump is a 3rd rate Sulla. Octavian will be along soon enough.
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#324336 - 04/13/20 03:39 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
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That's ancient history.

Fear mongering and vote shaming really aren't gonna work y'know. Electing Biden is just setting yourselves up for failure.

I'm just warning you about what I think is most likely to happen. It's not something I want to see happen, I'm just an observer here. Think of me as the guy you say "Hold my beer" to. I can think of a thousand reasons you shouldn't do whatever the f*ck you are about to do.

But you won't listen, so I will hold your beer for you and watch you f*ck up bigly. Then I will finish your beer.
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#324337 - 04/13/20 03:41 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
That's ancient history.


Except that it's, you know, happening.

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Fear mongering and vote shaming really aren't gonna work y'know. Electing Biden is just setting yourselves up for failure.


*shrug*

Either you're against Trump or you're not. There are no qualifiers.

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But you won't listen, so I will hold your beer for you and watch you f*ck up bigly. Then I will finish your beer.


I am the very avatar of the [censored] Up Fairy.

And I peed in the beer.
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#324340 - 04/13/20 04:28 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
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You know I'm right though.

Electing Biden is just kicking the can down the road. I don't hate Joe Biden. I feel sorry for the old guy because he's getting into something he's not gonna be able to handle.

Honestly, I wish Donald Trump nothing but harm. I don't want him to be re-elected. But there's a small chance he will still win. Because Joe Biden is the candidate.

Biden can win the vote of the far left with just a few promises. He'll most likely be the next president.

This is where all my models crash. An ancient and storied deck of Tarot cards burst into flames when I attempted a reading for further details. I see electoral disaster ahead in 2024. I'm okay if I'm wrong about it. But I don't think I am.

I also don't seem to share the fear you have of Donald Trump. He's just a man, he'll be gone soon. Or he'll get re-elected, then he'll be gone in four years.
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#324382 - 04/13/20 11:10 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
You know I'm right though.

Electing Biden is just kicking the can down the road. I don't hate Joe Biden. I feel sorry for the old guy because he's getting into something he's not gonna be able to handle.


Kicking the can down the road is sometimes an acceptable strategy. This is one of those times.

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Honestly, I wish Donald Trump nothing but harm. I don't want him to be re-elected. But there's a small chance he will still win. Because Joe Biden is the candidate.


I would say the chances of Trump winning are 7-3 FOR him winning, because the left can't agree on pizza toppings, let alone a candidate.

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Biden can win the vote of the far left with just a few promises. He'll most likely be the next president.


It's going to come down to his VP pick.

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This is where all my models crash. An ancient and storied deck of Tarot cards burst into flames when I attempted a reading for further details. I see electoral disaster ahead in 2024. I'm okay if I'm wrong about it. But I don't think I am.


I am right now thinking in terms of surviving to 2024.

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I also don't seem to share the fear you have of Donald Trump. He's just a man, he'll be gone soon. Or he'll get re-elected, then he'll be gone in four years.


This assumes the country will survive as a political entity for THIS term, let alone the next one.

The damage caused in 3 years has been immense. Now watch what the prick does in his SECOND term.
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#324388 - 04/14/20 12:22 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Hamish Howl]
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Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl

The damage caused in 3 years has been immense. Now watch what the prick does in his SECOND term.


Imagine if, during or even AFTER this pandemic, the United States is reeling from the economic damage, and other factors, and suddenly there is an attack on our shores.
Right now, for the sake of the discussion, pick any nation or group, doesn't matter. But the attack is large, like maybe on a major city, with a few thousand killed.

Now we're reeling from a pandemic AND an attack.
Is it time for an Enabling Act yet?

Let's say that the attack comes in the end of December 2020, and we end up with Trump, a Dem House and a GOP Senate again, with Mitch..and Bill Barr as AG.

Howzabout that Enabling Act, think Mitch will pass it?
Think Trump will sign it?
Think it will ever get rescinded?
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