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#323828 - 04/03/20 09:54 PM Re: FISA IG Report [Re: jgw]
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I tend to believe there is a reason for that.


Absolutely. Society has not yet evolved to a point where those things will work. Evolution can't be forced. For most of our history Monarchies were pretty much the rule of order. Most civilized nations these days have some form of democracy. Many have made the shift successfully into social democracy. We are evolving globally towards being a social society.

The United States of America was the start of the trend. Taking the power from "Royalty" and delivering it into the hands of revolutionaries. Those revolutionaries then created a system they thought immune from despotic rule. A fair and equitable system capable of delivering liberty and justice for all.

Of the people, by the people, and for the people.

Technology, computers, and the internet have created instant communication throughout the world. For once in our history we are truly one people. Everybody has to play nice because everyone else knows exactly what's going on. Some countries haven't evolved as far as others. It's easier for smaller countries to pull off but the USA is coming along slowly.

I betcha M4A gets to be a pretty hot issue after this pandemic.
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#323829 - 04/03/20 10:16 PM Re: FISA IG Report [Re: rporter314]
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This is obviously a Pubic Health crisis: Even Republicans in congress and President Trump have to admit that. Now it's just a matter of figuring out which government is responsible for dealing with it. Trumps keeps on trying to shuffle it off onto Governors so he can aid the butt-kissers and stiff the ones who criticize him. He's still trying to play partisan politics with it, except the two sides aren't Republican versus Democrat, it's Trump worshipers versus Trump atheists.

Public Health has to be a whole world issue, as long as we let people fly all over the place. It especially has to be a federal issue, as people move around the country bringing the virus with them. The response has to be nationwide and uniform. This screams for single-payer. Containment fails badly if you can't track and care for the homeless. The main problem right now is the one man who should be directing this uniform approach fighting that out of sheer incompetence.

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#323835 - 04/03/20 11:08 PM Re: FISA IG Report [Re: Greger]
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I betcha M4A gets to be a pretty hot issue after this pandemic.

Which is why Trump will be campaigning on it. A salesman busker he is, he ain't an ideologue.
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#323838 - 04/03/20 11:54 PM Re: FISA IG Report [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
He's still trying to play partisan politics with it, except the two sides aren't Republican versus Democrat, it's Trump worshipers versus Trump atheists.


Genius. Pure genius.
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#323839 - 04/04/20 12:52 AM Re: FISA IG Report [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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jeffery, that Trump GIF is gross. I have to quickly scroll away whenever I see that face. To see it convulse like that gives me the heebee jeebees.
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#324131 - 04/10/20 01:45 AM Re: FISA IG Report [Re: Greger]
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jeffery, that Trump GIF is gross. I have to quickly scroll away whenever I see that face. To see it convulse like that gives me the heebee jeebees.


But letting him win again doesn't?
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#324132 - 04/10/20 02:19 AM Re: FISA IG Report [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Of course it does...that's why I didn't want Biden.
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