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#324186 - 04/11/20 03:18 AM Re: Questions [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
There's always talk like that about presidents, it gets more traction now that the internet can spread bullshyte at a rate faster than the speed of light.


Not till Newt and Denny Hastert got into power.
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#324188 - 04/11/20 03:28 AM Re: Questions [Re: perotista]
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I heard basically the same thing you're saying about Trump, some Republicans were saying about Obama. Some were totally convinced Obama would find a way to postpone or do away with the 2016 elections and make himself president for life.

If you were on DP during that time frame you probably remember them.


Yup. I remember my wife's grandfather earnestly warning me about this.



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As an aside, it seems to me the left has always wanted to do away with states rights and bring all the power to the federal government. Now it seems your afraid Trump and the federal government will use its power over the states. There are times I wonder if absolute power is fine and good as long as the president and government is controlled by my political party and really, really bad if the other party has the presidency.

In other words, having the federal government over ride states rights is fine and good as long as the federal government is using its force to accomplish my agenda. The states ought to have their rights when the federal government is using their power to enforce the other party's agenda on the states.

This is one of my main reasons why I never belonged to or associated with either major party. Way too many times I have seen if I do it, its good, but if the other guy does exactly the same thing it's bad. All I want is consistency.



In a nutshell. If it's that terrible when someone from the other party wins the Presidency.... maybe the Presidency has too much power in and of itself.
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#324189 - 04/11/20 03:29 AM Re: Questions [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Greger
There's always talk like that about presidents, it gets more traction now that the internet can spread bullshyte at a rate faster than the speed of light.


Not till Newt and Denny Hastert got into power.


You misspelled FDR, there. wink
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#324190 - 04/11/20 03:33 AM Re: Questions [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: perotista
Here's exactly what I said, "I heard basically the same thing you're saying about Trump, some Republicans were saying about Obama. Some were totally convinced Obama would find a way to postpone or do away with the 2016 elections and make himself president for life."

I never said that Obama said that, I said Some Republicans.

I also added if you were on DP back then, you'd probably remember them.


And that's the fundamental difference.
Unlike Obama, Trump IS on record as expressing much more than wistful thoughts of hanging onto power by extraordinary means


Here you go:

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey...ident-of-china/

https://pjmedia.com/blog/obama-claims-hes-not-a-dictator-he-just-wishes-that-he-was

https://startthinkingright.wordpress.com...na-and-so-do-i/

PLENTY of people took him seriously about that, too. And they looked like fools. Cmon, man, you're smarter than that.


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PS: My oldest brother screamed about Jade Helm and Obama Martial Law for the better part of the year.


And you sound like him now. Breathe, man. smile Take a step back. The country survived 8 years of the Atheist Muslim Kenyan Communist, and it will survive 4 or even 8 years of the Nazi Libertarian Orange Warmongerer smile


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#324193 - 04/11/20 03:40 AM Re: Questions [Re: CPWILL]
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And you sound like him now. Breathe, man. Take a step back. The country survived 8 years of the Atheist Muslim Kenyan Communist, and it will survive 4 or even 8 years of the Nazi Libertarian Orange Warmongerer

Despite your awkward political leanings you seem to be a man with good sense.
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#324194 - 04/11/20 03:44 AM Re: Questions [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL


You misspelled FDR, there. wink


Except in FDR's case, The Business Plot actually was in the planning stages.
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#324195 - 04/11/20 03:45 AM Re: Questions [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL


And you sound like him now. Breathe, man. smile Take a step back. The country survived 8 years of the Atheist Muslim Kenyan Communist, and it will survive 4 or even 8 years of the Nazi Libertarian Orange Warmongerer smile


Nice concern trolling you got there.
So if you're so sure, vote for the guy. You might get lucky.
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#324198 - 04/11/20 04:27 AM Re: Questions [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL


And you sound like him now. Breathe, man. smile Take a step back. The country survived 8 years of the Atheist Muslim Kenyan Communist, and it will survive 4 or even 8 years of the Nazi Libertarian Orange Warmongerer smile


Assumes facts not in evidence.

And the Nectarine Nero was struggling when times were good. He's going to s*** the bed.
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#324208 - 04/11/20 01:12 PM Re: Questions [Re: CPWILL]
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I totally agree, the presidency does have way too much power. Now that is the fault of congress itself as over the years, congress has ceded more and more of its Constitutional powers to the presidency and other government agencies and departments.

Two main reasons, those in congress don't like to make hard decisions. Especially decisions that might make voters angry at them. Better to give up that power so when reelection time roles around, congress can say, don't blame me, blame the president, blame the fed, the irs, blame some other government agency. We had nothing to do with it.

the second is those in congress that are of the same party of the president, the administration, trying to give the president everything he wants, try to give him more and more power. Those congress critters of the same party as the president are more part of the administration than the institution of Congress. We don't have a Speaker of the House like a Sam Rayburn or a Mike McCormick or even Carl Albert who would tell a president of their own party, "Hell No, that power belongs to us or you aren't getting that without our approval."

Since then congress has been more than willing if the president is of their own party to give the president everything he wants and even more and more power. Even if that power once belonged to congress.
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#324210 - 04/11/20 02:45 PM Re: Questions [Re: Greger]
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And you sound like him now. Breathe, man. Take a step back. The country survived 8 years of the Atheist Muslim Kenyan Communist, and it will survive 4 or even 8 years of the Nazi Libertarian Orange Warmongerer

Despite your awkward political leanings you seem to be a man with good sense.


laugh Thanks, man laugh. Compliments from the "other side" are the best, because they are the ones you know are truly felt smile
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