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#324295 - 04/12/20 07:20 PM Re: Questions [Re: Greger]
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China has, and is, proving that supporting higher education and making it available is very good for the nation. Since they embarked on their quest they are now doing their own inventing and doing it well. Huawei and 5g is one of the results of their support of higher education. I tend to believe that we have banned Huawei to let us try and catch up with 5g. I know, its building out, but China was first with this one, and several others.

We, on the other hand, have, pretty much, priced our higher education out of the range of most students whilst creating huge student loan debt. We are, now, actually losing foreign students to Chinese universities! Its getting even more interesting as we are now sending students to China for the higher education!

We need doctors but it costs to much to produce one.

One can go on and on about all of this but, when it comes to higher education, we are failing bigtime and its gonna cost!

I have always found it interesting. Our politicians have always found a way to attack any social programs. I guess I should say Republican politicians but there are also Dems who will back their plays. In Washington state our state legislature so cut funds to our main insane asylum that it was being run with minimum wage, non educated. It was so bad that the feds actually shut it down. Our Legislature also doesn't care to really support our higher education. This is social stuff so it is considered evil. Wierd.... They also go after police departments, libraries, etc. They never say they are socialist but such are treated to attack on a regular basis. What I really don't understand is why they can do that with nary a whimper from them that proclaim their support.

Strange times...............

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#324299 - 04/12/20 08:33 PM Re: Questions [Re: jgw]
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We need doctors but it costs to much to produce one.


And yet poor communist Cuba which has struggled under US economic sanctions for half a century produces lots of extra doctors that it exports worldwide wherever doctors are needed.

It's a big old goofy world!
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#324314 - 04/12/20 11:23 PM Re: Questions [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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We need doctors but it costs to much to produce one.


And yet poor communist Cuba which has struggled under US economic sanctions for half a century produces lots of extra doctors that it exports worldwide wherever doctors are needed.

It's a big old goofy world!


This is an excellent point.

Doctors DO cost, but Cuba can afford them and we can't.

Which states the priorities of the two countries as clearly as anything else.
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#324322 - 04/13/20 01:52 AM Re: Questions [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I remember a time when both major party's goal was a prosperous, secure and free America.


Fat chance on that, when the President owes Putin "some favors". Who would have believed it just a few years ago that it would be the Republican Party that sold out America to the Russians? They have been screaming about liberals getting friendly with socialists for decades and decades. I'm beginning to think that was all a Big Lie.


John Milius owes America an apology for his premise of Red Dawn, where leftists weaken America's standing in the world and triggers dissolution of NATO with America standing alone.

Turned out he was 180 degrees wrong!
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#324323 - 04/13/20 01:52 AM Re: Questions [Re: Greger]
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Russia's not so bad these days and will probably soon surpass the US in basic freedoms. Even they have single payer healthcare and I wouldn't be surprised to see them move towards free higher education soon. The oligarchs know that the best way to keep the people complacent is to throw them a bone now and again while you repeatedly gang rape them.

American politicians haven't yet learned that.

And the f*cking continues...


Higher education at public universities has always been free.
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#324326 - 04/13/20 02:45 AM Re: Questions [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Higher education at public universities has always been free.

In Russia...? Well there ya go. Looks like they're way ahead of us as far a basic freedoms and human rights. I think I'm beginning to understand American exceptionalism.

You can get free healthcare and education anywhere EXCEPT America.
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#324334 - 04/13/20 03:22 AM Re: Questions [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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Higher education at public universities has always been free.

In Russia...? Well there ya go. Looks like they're way ahead of us as far a basic freedoms and human rights. I think I'm beginning to understand American exceptionalism.

You can get free healthcare and education anywhere EXCEPT America.


Yes, we are the world's leader in "That can't be done."
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#324365 - 04/13/20 07:59 PM Re: Questions [Re: Greger]
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Don't forget how Cuba is producing doctors as well. There are a lot of Americans that go down there to get their education to be a doctor. Google "cuba doctors in us" for some info on this one. I had a friend who went there to be a doctor and had no problem passing the test here to get licensed.

there used to be a ferry from Mexico to Cuba but its gone. Now, however, you can fly to Cuba, from Mexico for not much money. I think you can buy a round trip ticked for under 200.00 You will need a cuban visa which you can get online. Cuba really doesn't care as they want the dollar.

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#324369 - 04/13/20 08:20 PM Re: Questions [Re: jgw]
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I wonder if you need to work in Cuban hospitals or clinics as part of the training. Probably: That's a big part of medical school in the US. It would make sense if they gave you an "Apprentice Doctor" license upon graduation, and then an actual Doctor license after a couple of years of working. Only then could you take the US exam.

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#324427 - 04/14/20 06:40 PM Re: Questions [Re: pondering_it_all]
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