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#324211 - 04/11/20 02:46 PM Re: Questions [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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And you sound like him now. Breathe, man. smile Take a step back. The country survived 8 years of the Atheist Muslim Kenyan Communist, and it will survive 4 or even 8 years of the Nazi Libertarian Orange Warmongerer smile


Nice concern trolling you got there.
So if you're so sure, vote for the guy. You might get lucky.


No trolling involved, man. You've been decent to me, and this isn't good for you.




But as for voting for Trump? laugh Not F'ing Likely laugh


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#324212 - 04/11/20 02:47 PM Re: Questions [Re: perotista]
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I totally agree, the presidency does have way too much power. Now that is the fault of congress itself as over the years, congress has ceded more and more of its Constitutional powers to the presidency and other government agencies and departments.

Two main reasons, those in congress don't like to make hard decisions. Especially decisions that might make voters angry at them. Better to give up that power so when reelection time roles around, congress can say, don't blame me, blame the president, blame the fed, the irs, blame some other government agency. We had nothing to do with it.

the second is those in congress that are of the same party of the president, the administration, trying to give the president everything he wants, try to give him more and more power. Those congress critters of the same party as the president are more part of the administration than the institution of Congress. We don't have a Speaker of the House like a Sam Rayburn or a Mike McCormick or even Carl Albert who would tell a president of their own party, "Hell No, that power belongs to us or you aren't getting that without our approval."

Since then congress has been more than willing if the president is of their own party to give the president everything he wants and even more and more power. Even if that power once belonged to congress.


Yeah, Imma need you to stop writing posts like this and making the rest of us look less well-thought-out by comparison.


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#324223 - 04/11/20 04:51 PM Re: Questions [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: perotista
I totally agree, the presidency does have way too much power. Now that is the fault of congress itself as over the years, congress has ceded more and more of its Constitutional powers to the presidency and other government agencies and departments.

Two main reasons, those in congress don't like to make hard decisions. Especially decisions that might make voters angry at them. Better to give up that power so when reelection time roles around, congress can say, don't blame me, blame the president, blame the fed, the irs, blame some other government agency. We had nothing to do with it.

the second is those in congress that are of the same party of the president, the administration, trying to give the president everything he wants, try to give him more and more power. Those congress critters of the same party as the president are more part of the administration than the institution of Congress. We don't have a Speaker of the House like a Sam Rayburn or a Mike McCormick or even Carl Albert who would tell a president of their own party, "Hell No, that power belongs to us or you aren't getting that without our approval."

Since then congress has been more than willing if the president is of their own party to give the president everything he wants and even more and more power. Even if that power once belonged to congress.


Yeah, Imma need you to stop writing posts like this and making the rest of us look less well-thought-out by comparison.


LOL, I can't help myself. I really don't care for either major party. If you go back through history you'll find the Democrats in congress tried to give Obama as much power as possible, Republicans opposed that. When Bush was president, the Republicans wanted to give him more power while the Democrats opposed that. Today, it's back to the GOP wanting and trying to give Trump more power. It's been that way going back to Watergate. Only immediately after Watergate did the congress try to regain some of its power it had ceded to the presidency over the years. Congress didn't accomplish much in that task.

What I find interesting is that Democrats in congress were more of a hindrance to Jimmy Carter than the Republicans were. Signs of the times back then I suppose. But that was when Carl Albert was Speaker, the last Speaker that was protective of congress's power.
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#324224 - 04/11/20 05:04 PM Re: Questions [Re: perotista]
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Originally Posted By: perotista
I totally agree, the presidency does have way too much power. Now that is the fault of congress itself as over the years, congress has ceded more and more of its Constitutional powers to the presidency and other government agencies and departments.

Two main reasons, those in congress don't like to make hard decisions. Especially decisions that might make voters angry at them. Better to give up that power so when reelection time roles around, congress can say, don't blame me, blame the president, blame the fed, the irs, blame some other government agency. We had nothing to do with it.

the second is those in congress that are of the same party of the president, the administration, trying to give the president everything he wants, try to give him more and more power. Those congress critters of the same party as the president are more part of the administration than the institution of Congress. We don't have a Speaker of the House like a Sam Rayburn or a Mike McCormick or even Carl Albert who would tell a president of their own party, "Hell No, that power belongs to us or you aren't getting that without our approval."

Since then congress has been more than willing if the president is of their own party to give the president everything he wants and even more and more power. Even if that power once belonged to congress.
I so thoroughly agree with that post I will merely acknowledge it and say bravo.

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#324228 - 04/11/20 05:28 PM Re: Questions [Re: NW Ponderer]
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ANd so...this begs the question, how do we get back to where we want to be and where do we want to be anyway?
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#324232 - 04/11/20 05:41 PM Re: Questions [Re: Greger]
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...how do we get back to where we want to be...

I think that this has always been a mythical place. We forget that we've never gotten to be where would be best.

It should be the premier question for all of us to figure out, and agree to pursue, where we ought to go. But there is so much delusion and dishonesty in people that we (society as a whole) can't even tolerate a reasoned discussion about it.
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#324237 - 04/11/20 06:15 PM Re: Questions [Re: logtroll]
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Interesting, being an old fart, I remember a time when both major party's goal was a prosperous, secure and free America. Only the path to obtain that goal was a different. A time when neither party thought the other party was public enemy number one.

I don't think we can get back to where we want to be with both parties dead set on destroy the other. With both parties automatically opposing anything and every that is the other party's idea, proposal, legislation etc. without any regards to the merit of them.

I agree, a reasoned discussion will never take place. In today's polarized, ultra partisan era, the great divide, what's good for America, the country as a whole, everyone, everything, gets lost in an attempt by both parties to gain a political advantage over the other even if it hurts the country in the long run.

I'm very much the cynic when it comes to this and to our present day major parties.
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#324259 - 04/12/20 03:10 AM Re: Questions [Re: perotista]
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I say make Mr Trump Master of the Universe and give everything to the plutocratic kleptocracy ... frack America and frack it good.
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#324276 - 04/12/20 03:27 PM Re: Questions [Re: perotista]
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I remember a time when both major party's goal was a prosperous, secure and free America.


Fat chance on that, when the President owes Putin "some favors". Who would have believed it just a few years ago that it would be the Republican Party that sold out America to the Russians? They have been screaming about liberals getting friendly with socialists for decades and decades. I'm beginning to think that was all a Big Lie.

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#324282 - 04/12/20 05:18 PM Re: Questions [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Russia's not so bad these days and will probably soon surpass the US in basic freedoms. Even they have single payer healthcare and I wouldn't be surprised to see them move towards free higher education soon. The oligarchs know that the best way to keep the people complacent is to throw them a bone now and again while you repeatedly gang rape them.

American politicians haven't yet learned that.

And the f*cking continues...
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