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#324076 - 04/09/20 01:31 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Originally Posted By: Greger
I been tryin' to tell him that! He's off the deep end with the crazy Trump theories.



You just finished saying that you want to see Trump reelected.
Seriously, who is off the deep end again?
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#324082 - 04/09/20 01:55 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I want to see Trump utterly destroyed. Re-election will offer the best chance for that, but only if we flip the senate to insure a better outcome in his second impeachment. At some point in the recovery from this virus/market crash Republicans are going to turn against Trump. Fox News will turn against Trump. Voters will turn against Trump.

With luck we might be able to push him to suicide. I'd rather see him have a stroke and be left a bitter and hateful, drooling, one sided shell of the man he once thought himself to be. But I'll take whatever I can get.
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#324084 - 04/09/20 02:00 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Originally Posted By: Greger
I want to see Trump utterly destroyed. Re-election will offer the best chance for that, but only if we flip the senate to insure a better outcome in his second impeachment. At some point in the recovery from this virus/market crash Republicans are going to turn against Trump. Fox News will turn against Trump. Voters will turn against Trump.

With luck we might be able to push him to suicide. I'd rather see him have a stroke and be left a bitter and hateful, drooling, one sided shell of the man he once thought himself to be. But I'll take whatever I can get.


And you don't think beating him in the November election will drive him to a stroke? Disagree.
And you don't think state criminal prosecution will carry on?
Disagree.
And you don't think Republican hatred for a failed reelection bid will inspire payback, by bitter Senate and House members who wake up the next day to find they backed the wrong horse after all?
Disagree.

And I guarantee that, if he is reelected, it will be the last election in this country for a while, a long while.

You think our institutions are safe.
My own grandfather thought he was safe.
He was Louis Rothschild's banker!
He kept saying "They wouldn't touch me, I am the banker to the Rothschilds in Germany, I am safe."

It cost him his entire fortune, twenty five million Marks in GOLD, the equivalent of 430 million dollars today.

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#324088 - 04/09/20 02:59 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Originally Posted By: Greger
I want to see Trump utterly destroyed. Re-election will offer the best chance for that


You're leaving out the even larger problem that comes with a Trump reelection...Trumpers. Not only can't we afford another four years of Trump, we can't afford another four years of Trumpers in power either.

"This is mass madness, you maniacs."



It deserves a BIG:

"Have you lost yo damn mind?"
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#324094 - 04/09/20 06:32 AM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I want to see Trump die in prison. Then when they do the autopsy, they say: "No wonder! He had X." Where X is Neurological Syphilis, or a brain tumor the size of an apple. I want Trumpers to be so ashamed they ever voted for that evil moron, so they just refrain from voting for the rest of their lives.

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#324103 - 04/09/20 01:24 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Registered: 09/05/19
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I want to see Trump die in prison. Then when they do the autopsy, they say: "No wonder! He had X." Where X is Neurological Syphilis, or a brain tumor the size of an apple. I want Trumpers to be so ashamed they ever voted for that evil moron, so they just refrain from voting for the rest of their lives.


You have to take the vote for Trump back in 2016 in the context of 2016 and consider who he was running against. How the people viewed the two major party candidates. It wasn't that people liked Trump that much, outside of who you call Trumpers, it had more to do with their dislike of Hillary Clinton. One must remember that in February of 2016 polls were showing that 56% of all Americans wanted the Democrats to nominate someone other than Hillary Clinton. That should have been a warning.

To keep this short, numbers probably bore a lot of you, independents, the swing voters, those who aren't affiliated with either major party, the less to non-partisan folks went for Trump and put Trump into the White House. On election day, these swing voters, the non-affiliated, 70% disliked Hillary, 57% disliked Trump. Questions 10 and 11.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l37rosbwjp/econTabReport_lv.pdf

The record high for disliking a major party candidate prior to 2016 was 47% held by Barry Goldwater back in 1964. I'm of the opinion that any other Republican besides Trump would have beaten Clinton by 10 points or more and any other Democrat, other than Hillary would have won by 10 points or more. 2016 just pitted the two most disliked and unwanted candidates in our history. This is why Trump is president. As I always say, we have who we have as president as a direct result of the decisions, actions, choices of both major parties back in 2016. Both are to blame. It was their choice who they ran, both choose who they wanted, live with the results.

One other thing, 54% of all independents, swing voters, the non-affiliated disliked and didn't want neither Trump nor Clinton to become the next president. In the end 12% of all independents voted third party against both major party candidates. That a quarter of all independent that disliked and didn't want neither candidate who refused to choose between the major party candidates. They chose a third name on the ballot, it didn't matter who that name was as long as that name wasn't Trump nor Clinton.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-...candidates.aspx

Here's a list of all major party presidential candidates favorable/unfavorable ratings going back to Eisenhower when Gallup and Pew Research began keeping track of these things. Look and see who is at the bottom.

Highest to lowest favorable/unfavorable ratings of each major party presidential candidate.
Favorable/unfavorable
1956 Eisenhower 84/12%
1964 LBJ 81/13%
1976 Carter 81/16%
1960 JFK 80/14%
1960 Nixon 79/16%
1968 Nixon 79/22%
1976 Ford 79/20%
1972 Nixon 76/21%
1968 Humphrey 72/28%
1984 Reagan 70/30%
1980 Carter 68/32%
1984 Mondale 66/34%
1980 Reagan 64/31%
1992 Bill Clinton 64/33%
2008 Obama 62/35%
2012 Obama 62/37%
1956 Stevenson 61/31%
2004 G.W. Bush 61/39%
2008 McCain 60/35%
1992 G.H.W. Bush 59/40%
2000 G.W. Bush 58/38%
2004 Kerry 57/40%
1996 Bill Clinton 56/42%
1988 G.H.W. Bush 56/39%
2000 Gore 55/45%
2012 Romney 55/43%
1972 McGovern 55/41%
1996 Dole 54/45%
1988 Dukakis 50/45%
1964 Goldwater 43/47%
2016 Hillary Clinton 38/56%
2016 Donald Trump 36/60%
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#324117 - 04/09/20 07:38 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas

You think our institutions are safe.
My own grandfather thought he was safe.
He was Louis Rothschild's banker!
He kept saying "They wouldn't touch me, I am the banker to the Rothschilds in Germany, I am safe."

It cost him his entire fortune, twenty five million Marks in GOLD, the equivalent of 430 million dollars today.




Yeah....I"m going to file this right next to my Wife's grandfather fervently warning me about how Obama wanted to nationalize healthcare, just like Hitler, and that's how we knew he'd be coming for our guns and that's why we should be afraid that Obama would try to cancel the 2016 Election and remain President For Life.

:roll:
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#324120 - 04/09/20 11:09 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: CPWILL]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 15728
Loc: Whittier, California
Originally Posted By: CPWILL
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas

You think our institutions are safe.
My own grandfather thought he was safe.
He was Louis Rothschild's banker!
He kept saying "They wouldn't touch me, I am the banker to the Rothschilds in Germany, I am safe."

It cost him his entire fortune, twenty five million Marks in GOLD, the equivalent of 430 million dollars today.




Yeah....I"m going to file this right next to my Wife's grandfather fervently warning me about how Obama wanted to nationalize healthcare, just like Hitler, and that's how we knew he'd be coming for our guns and that's why we should be afraid that Obama would try to cancel the 2016 Election and remain President For Life.

:roll:


Did your wife's grandfather have a number tattoed on his arm?
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#324122 - 04/09/20 11:36 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Quote:
Did your wife's grandfather have a number tattoed on his arm?


Does your wife's grandfather's tattoo make your hyperbolic theories more likely to come true?
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#324124 - 04/09/20 11:52 PM Re: First Bernie Sanders Thread 2020 [Re: Greger]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
It's the Despair Quotient!
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 15728
Loc: Whittier, California
Originally Posted By: Greger
Quote:
Did your wife's grandfather have a number tattoed on his arm?


Does your wife's grandfather's tattoo make your hyperbolic theories more likely to come true?


You have the family trees mixed up again.
CPWILL is the one with the wife's grandfather.
I just had a grandfather.

You just have a clever tune you whistle called "It Can't Happen Here", which when listened to through the ear of history, sounds like "Famous Last Words".

Quote:
ďAnd how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"


Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

I bet you still think Trump will step down gracefully if he is defeated in November.
Oh wait, that's right, I forgot...you want to see him reelected.
I'll never understand how granting someone unlimited absolute power, which is what he seeks, winds up being a net positive and reassures you of continued security.
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