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#325004 - 04/30/20 05:40 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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He's just not interested in anything that takes longer than November. If we could get a vaccine before then, he would gladly take credit for it. And in fact, maybe we can. There are clinical trials in progress already.

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#325005 - 04/30/20 05:52 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
He's just not interested in anything that takes longer than November. If we could get a vaccine before then, he would gladly take credit for it. And in fact, maybe we can. There are clinical trials in progress already.


The only vaccine he should really be interested in is one that cures the effects of Tertiary Syphilitic Dementia.
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#325012 - 05/01/20 03:16 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Here's an interesting article, something I've been talking about a lot. That those voters who disliked both candidates, that those who voted for the candidate they least wanted to lose, not win which was Trump are now choosing Biden. One also has to remember that 9 million voters in 2016 refused to choose between Hillary Clinton and Trump, their dislike for both was that high they voted for a third party candidate that they knew had no chance of winning. Such was the amount of dislike of both major party candidates.

"For Some Reluctant Trump Voters, Coronavirus Was The Last Straw"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/reluctant-trump-voters-coronavirus-last-195429217.html

For the record, I was one of the 9 million folks who voted against both Trump and Clinton. Both major party candidates disgusted me to no end. It was like both major parties went searching for the candidates that would disgust most Americans, candidates Americans would dislike and not want to become their next president. They certainly succeeded in 2016.
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#325102 - 05/03/20 04:10 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: perotista]
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Originally Posted By: perotista
Here's an interesting article, something I've been talking about a lot. That those voters who disliked both candidates, that those who voted for the candidate they least wanted to lose, not win which was Trump are now choosing Biden. One also has to remember that 9 million voters in 2016 refused to choose between Hillary Clinton and Trump, their dislike for both was that high they voted for a third party candidate that they knew had no chance of winning. Such was the amount of dislike of both major party candidates.

"For Some Reluctant Trump Voters, Coronavirus Was The Last Straw"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/reluctant-trump-voters-coronavirus-last-195429217.html


That is interesting, and wouldn't surprise me.

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For the record, I was one of the 9 million folks who voted against both Trump and Clinton. Both major party candidates disgusted me to no end. It was like both major parties went searching for the candidates that would disgust most Americans, candidates Americans would dislike and not want to become their next president. They certainly succeeded in 2016.


laugh Don't forget the Libertarians, who did their best to compete in kind.

2016 proved again the truth of Greek Tragedy, wherein the failings of each actor proved their downfall, even the actor who seemingly "won", but who seems likely now to receive its comeuppance... due to those same failings.
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#325104 - 05/03/20 06:01 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: CPWILL]
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The problem with the Libertarians is they only field candidates for the presidency and a few senate races. There is no grass roots or base for them. It's kind of like they are satisfied with having only 2 or 3% of the electorate to identify with them.

They're not active at the local level, at the county or town and city level. Only at the national level. Then too, only about half or less that identify with the Libertarian Party will actually vote for their candidates. Preferring to vote for the lesser of two evils from the two major parties. Unless the Libertarians drop down to the grass roots level, the local level and field candidates there, they'll be just a third name on the ballot with no real meaning and with no chance at all. Especially at the national level.

I never understood that.
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#325107 - 05/03/20 06:38 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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That's simple: They don't want to lead a massive party and win control of the country, because they all know their ideas would be a disaster. They just want attention and adoration from their (few) fans. Promoting an "Everybody Else Is Wrong" agenda is an easy way to stand out from the crowd. If they promoted standard Democratic or Republican ideas then they would just be one of many.

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#325111 - 05/03/20 07:20 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: CPWILL]
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When it comes right down to it I never understood Hillary's "failings" or why she disgusted so many people. And I will certainly never understand why anybody thought Trump was a better choice.
**no need to read further, I'm just ranting**

There is not a single incident which has occurred over the last four years that wouldn't have been better handled under her administration.

Thousands of lives would have been saved over the last two months with any able administrator at the helm. Clinton has a decades long record fighting for better healthcare. Her people would have been on this Corona virus thing like stink on sh*t. And Republicans would have fought her every step of the way. But tens of thousands of lives might have been saved. Two Trillion Dollars was handed over to the Trump administration to do with as they pleased.

Without accountability.

The President's son in law informs us those medical stockpiles belong to the Trump Family, not the united states. And the Trump Family will sell them to whom they please for as much as they can get. And they will mostly buy them from their friends. They will even buy them from friends who don't have them to sell.

Millions have been made to suffer over the last three years, perhaps a few thousand have seen benefits relatable to his presidency. He intentionally overheated the economy for maximum possible profit.

He controls the stock market with his tweets.

And some here think he may go down in history as a pretty good president.

Are all of his cell phone calls private? Or will we one day have access to the tapes?
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#325175 - 05/04/20 03:07 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
When it comes right down to it I never understood Hillary's "failings" or why she disgusted so many people. And I will certainly never understand why anybody thought Trump was a better choice.


If you have the financial resources to overheat the global economy, then it stands to reason that you have the financial resources to build a fake cardboard cutout of Hillary and convince enough big money donors that she is the boogeyman.
All you need besides that is the willingness to break some laws (oh wait, not some...A LOT!) and hire enough attorneys to stall prosecution until the next century.

That's my takeaway from it.
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#325630 - 05/13/20 12:03 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Here's an interesting article I received from Gallup this AM.

"Attention to U.S. Election Reverts to Pre-Primary Level"

https://news.gallup.com/poll/310892/atte...ign=syndication

This is what caught my eye, it's lower down in the article.

Enthusiasm has declined since January among both party groups -- down six points among Republicans (to 62%) and down seven points among Democrats (to 54%).
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#325633 - 05/13/20 03:47 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Jared Kushner is saying that the November 3rd elections will be postponed. The idiot doesn't know that it's done by Federal Law. Oh well, who knows what the Trump Crime Family will be able to do.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kushner-law-aside-doesnt-rule-121444216.html
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