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#325902 - 05/20/20 03:30 AM Re: covid-19 cure [Re: GreatNewsTonight]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight

If Trump succeeds in fostering a warp-speed delivery of an effective vaccine by late October he will win re-election in a landslide.


Ummm, his refusal to act in a coordinated and timely manner has thus far cost us several trillion dollars and contributed to erasing the entire economic recovery and has plunged us into Great Depression v2.0 and just because he finally pushed to get a cure, you think he will be reelected?

I don't think so.
Had he ACTED in a coordinated and timely manner from the get-go I'd be in agreement with you.
Here on out, whatever he does, regardless of the result, is still shutting the barn after the horses and cows have escaped.
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#325906 - 05/20/20 04:35 PM Re: covid-19 cure [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight

If Trump succeeds in fostering a warp-speed delivery of an effective vaccine by late October he will win re-election in a landslide.


Ummm, his refusal to act in a coordinated and timely manner has thus far cost us several trillion dollars and contributed to erasing the entire economic recovery and has plunged us into Great Depression v2.0 and just because he finally pushed to get a cure, you think he will be reelected?

I don't think so.
Had he ACTED in a coordinated and timely manner from the get-go I'd be in agreement with you.
Here on out, whatever he does, regardless of the result, is still shutting the barn after the horses and cows have escaped.



It's not how you and I perceive him. It's how the low information voters perceive him. They will think of him as the savior of the nation.
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#325907 - 05/20/20 04:42 PM Re: covid-19 cure [Re: GreatNewsTonight]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight

If Trump succeeds in fostering a warp-speed delivery of an effective vaccine by late October he will win re-election in a landslide.


Ummm, his refusal to act in a coordinated and timely manner has thus far cost us several trillion dollars and contributed to erasing the entire economic recovery and has plunged us into Great Depression v2.0 and just because he finally pushed to get a cure, you think he will be reelected?

I don't think so.
Had he ACTED in a coordinated and timely manner from the get-go I'd be in agreement with you.
Here on out, whatever he does, regardless of the result, is still shutting the barn after the horses and cows have escaped.



It's not how you and I perceive him. It's how the low information voters perceive him. They will think of him as the savior of the nation.


The low information voters who are out of work and hanging on by a thread, and picking up the pieces of their broken lives while other countries are now edging toward relative safety and security?

Yeah, you're right...they are low information votes but even low information voters are going to get the impression that they got screwed badly.

No, not by Democrats doing nothing, for sure.
But it is now up to the Democrats to consider their messaging when presenting this to the people.
Normalizing abnormal sh!t may be the order of the day but orders like that don't age well when little or nothing changes for the better.

There is no way even low information voters can be told that what they are looking at in the coming months is any kind of normal, unless they are already part of Trump's hardcore base.

And there isn't a thing we can do about that one third of the nation.
You can't fix that kind of stupid, you can only vote it out of power, which is what will happen.
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#325910 - 05/20/20 06:18 PM Re: covid-19 cure [Re: GreatNewsTonight]
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I fear you are mistaking "fostering" with "claiming to foster" as he is doing absolutely nothing, other than trying to hijack the several month's worldwide effort to find a vaccine for Covid-19, ie. claim that which he has little or nothing to do with.

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#325915 - 05/20/20 08:21 PM Re: covid-19 cure [Re: jgw]
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Originally Posted By: jgw
I fear you are mistaking "fostering" with "claiming to foster" as he is doing absolutely nothing, other than trying to hijack the several month's worldwide effort to find a vaccine for Covid-19, ie. claim that which he has little or nothing to do with.


Yes, claiming to foster is right, I should have better specified it. Again, far from me to defend Trump. I'm just saying, he will be perceived as the savior, regardless of it being unjustified. He kept talking about Operation Warp Speed, and kept saying 12 to 18 months to get a vaccine is unacceptable... if he gets lucky enough that an effective vaccine does miraculously get produced and distributed in record time, even if it was not his doing, he will take credit for it and the gullible mass will believe it and will re-elect him.

I certainly hope he is not re-elected, even if a vaccine comes along fast. I hope for a vaccine to come along fast, but I hope this doesn't result in Trump being re-elected. I'm afraid it will, though.
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#325917 - 05/20/20 10:09 PM Re: covid-19 cure [Re: jgw]
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He hedges his bets very carefully, by promoting everything. Remember, one of the first things he promoted was "everybody get infected". So if containment failed miserably and all the vulnerable died, when we attained herd immunity he could take credit for his "difficult decision".

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#325927 - 05/21/20 05:07 PM Re: covid-19 cure [Re: GreatNewsTonight]
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He WILL get re-elected unless he is called, by Biden on every one of these things. He is is the president and presidents tend to get all the credit or not. I suspect the easiest is for Biden starts to call him "The Liar Trump" which would enrage the already enraged but get it across.

I know, not gonna happen - Dems are too civilized I think?

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#325928 - 05/21/20 05:15 PM Re: covid-19 cure [Re: GreatNewsTonight]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight
Originally Posted By: jgw
I fear you are mistaking "fostering" with "claiming to foster" as he is doing absolutely nothing, other than trying to hijack the several month's worldwide effort to find a vaccine for Covid-19, ie. claim that which he has little or nothing to do with.


Yes, claiming to foster is right, I should have better specified it. Again, far from me to defend Trump. I'm just saying, he will be perceived as the savior, regardless of it being unjustified. He kept talking about Operation Warp Speed, and kept saying 12 to 18 months to get a vaccine is unacceptable... if he gets lucky enough that an effective vaccine does miraculously get produced and distributed in record time, even if it was not his doing, he will take credit for it and the gullible mass will believe it and will re-elect him.

I certainly hope he is not re-elected, even if a vaccine comes along fast. I hope for a vaccine to come along fast, but I hope this doesn't result in Trump being re-elected. I'm afraid it will, though.


This so called "Operation Warp Speed" sounds like just another phony scam, like all the ones he used to cook up on "The Apprentice".
Have none of you ever watched the show?
It sounds like "The Apprentice" and it sounds like his vaunted deal with North Korea. It's just one more empty scam he promised to his faithful, and they keep falling for them one after another.

But we aren't that blind, are we?
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#325930 - 05/21/20 05:48 PM Re: covid-19 cure [Re: jgw]
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I just watched the Tom Hanks movie "Sully" last night and it almost gave me a lump in my throat for a moment because it made me realize just how badly we NEEDED a "Captain Sully" moment in this pandemic.

America desperately needed a "Captain Sully" to safely land us in the Hudson, with the 1200 first responders all rushing up from the water, from the air, from the harbor, all those helping hands reaching out to save all 155 passengers from our "aircraft" after Sully did his perfect "Forced Water Landing".



Instead we have a 21st Century version of Captain Ahab, with Obama forced into the role of the whale.
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#325955 - 05/22/20 05:42 PM Re: covid-19 cure [Re: jgw]
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The oxford vaccine failed. Here is an update on some other vaccines which have not.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life...?picid=75872691

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