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#326128 - 05/27/20 04:15 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pdx rick]
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Yep. What he accuses others of is what he's already done or is currently doing. He's amazingly transparent.
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#326129 - 05/27/20 05:09 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Spag-hetti]
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Originally Posted By: Spag-hetti
Yep. What he accuses others of is what he's already done or is currently doing. He's amazingly transparent.

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#326130 - 05/27/20 05:10 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Yup. Accuse others of the very thing that heís guilty of.

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#326138 - 05/27/20 04:56 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Spag-hetti]
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Welcome home, Spag-Hetti. It's good to see you again!
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#326151 - 05/28/20 03:09 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pdx rick]
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Accuse others of the very thing that heís guilty of.


Exactly. That's why Biden has to be a child molester, and senile. Obama has to be a traitor. Hillary has to be a criminal.

All stuff that Trump has done or is doing right now. It's a recurrent theme.

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#326154 - 05/28/20 03:14 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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They call that projection don't they?
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#326155 - 05/28/20 05:32 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: Greger]
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They call that projection don't they?

If by "they" you mean psychotherapists...yes, "they" do.

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#326233 - 05/31/20 12:11 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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How about those voters who dislike both candidates? I was busy checking the polls for someone else on a different subject, independents to be exact. But this struck me. Voters who dislike or hate both candidates.

In 2016 according to Gallup 25% of all Americans disliked and didnít want neither Trump nor Clinton to become their next president. The dislike factor or the hate factor depending on how oneís view this.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-...candidates.aspx

According to the exit polls, these folks who didnít want neither candidate broke for Trump 47-30 over Clinton. Trumpís favorable back then was at 36%, Hillaryís 38% nationally.

What Iím seeing today using RCP favorable averaging is Trump is up from 36 to 41% nationally, Biden up from Hillary 38% to 44% nationally with those who disliked both candidates down from 25% to 14%. Being this election is a referendum on Trump, I expect those who dislike both candidates to break for Biden this time around instead of going to Trump as they did in 2016. An even split would benefit Biden, but most polls show Biden winning this dislike both candidate group. In 2016, 6% of all Americans voted third party, against Trump and against Hillary Clinton. I donít expect that high of a number in 2020. Probably closer to the normal average of 1.5%. The disliked of both candidates are way down, also instead of polls showing at the end of May 2016 13% stating they would vote third party, at the end of May 2020, only 4% are doing so. Advantage Biden in my book.

Am I reading this right, time will tell.
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#326235 - 05/31/20 02:03 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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With the riots going on, I wonder if this will work for Trump.

"After Minneapolis, Can Trumpís Law-And-Order Strategy Work?"

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/after-minneapolis-can-trumps-law-and-order-strategy-work/

This strategy would be directed at the white voter basically caused by blacks rioting. It's interesting to note that Trump won the white vote in 2016 57-37 over Hillary. In the most recent polls, Trump advantage has slipped to 49-39 over Biden with the rest either undecided, voting for other, not sure.

For comparison by election of the white vote
2016 57-37 for Trump
2012 59-39 for Romney
2008 55-43 for McCain
2004 58-41 for Bush
2000 55-42 for Bush

I'll stop there as in 1992 and 1996 were three candidate races, Bill Clinton, G.H.W. Bush, Dole and Perot which skews the white vote stats.


Edited by perotista (05/31/20 02:04 PM)
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#326236 - 05/31/20 03:54 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Only if the "white voter" supports police brutality against black Americans. Righties had grand mal conniptions about Colin taking a knee. Not such a bad idea now, huh Righties?

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