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#326322 - 06/02/20 07:51 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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the Diebold conspiracy theory


Has there ever been a single example of this proven? I aint gonna Google it because I doubt it. And like other stuff, so rare as to affect nothing.

Our voting system needs a complete overhaul.



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#326325 - 06/02/20 09:10 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: CPWILL]
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That is impossible. I have been assured that the 2000, 2004, and 2016 Presidential elections were all stolen laugh

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#326326 - 06/02/20 09:12 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL
Originally Posted By: rporter314
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I have been assured that the 2000, 2004, and 2016 Presidential elections were all stolen
who exactly assured you??? I am really curious.

Despite the fact Candidate Bush would have won the 2000 election anyway the SC should not have intervened in the counting process.

The 2016 results were heavily influenced by Russians and Dir Comey.

I think when people use the term "stolen election" they mean actual real fraudulent voting (which changes the outcome), stealing ballots boxes, machines changing votes, etc. You will also notice for any of that to be really meaningful it has to be rampant in the real sense of an actual dictionary i.e. " flourishing or spreading unchecked", and not in Republicans use of word rampant meaning 7 cases per state. Now if you know of anything like that happening in 2000, 2004, or 2016, then not only do I want to know about it but I think law enforcement would like your evidence .... otherwise nothing was stolen.


smile They should talk to PDX, I suppose, then smile Because:


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I think when people use the term "stolen election" they mean actual real fraudulent voting (which changes the outcome), stealing ballots boxes, machines changing votes, etc.


is a description that fits the Diebold conspiracy theory pretty well.

Except the Diebold machine fckups are not conspiracies. Someone doesn't understand facts from conspiracies.

Hmm
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#326328 - 06/03/20 02:45 AM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: pdx rick]
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What Diebold machine f*ckups? Is there any real convincing proof that voting machine results have been tampered with? Any convictions? Or are we just sure it has to be happening because the internet.

I like the idea of mail in paper ballots. Millions and millions of machines dragged to all the precincts and set up for a few days then hauled back to warehouses to sit for two years seems a bit frivolous to me. What's the point of voting machines in the first place? Counting machines are much simpler.
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#326329 - 06/03/20 03:08 AM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
What Diebold machine f*ckups? Is there any real convincing proof that voting machine results have been tampered with? Any convictions?

Page 3, post 2 of this thread. smile

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#326330 - 06/03/20 03:12 AM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: jgw]
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I don't know about interesting since the writer is a nut.
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#326342 - 06/03/20 05:54 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: CPWILL]
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Wealthiest, most powerful, nation on a globe with a standard of living unmatched in human history and an imperfect but generally steady and increasing protection of individual liberties?

Fair enough. I'll take that hit. laugh


Have you asked George Floyd about the protection of his individual liberties?

If he was alive to answer he might disagree. But if you ask the wealthy and powerful you find them all on your side. They are none of my concern. They'll get along fine. The boog bois are cowards. Did you see the one shooting arrows into the crowd? They won't go toe to toe with anyone because they are pussies. But they want the same things you do. And the one breaking windows with a hammer? He ran away.

Did you see the cops pushing down the old white man? They're Boog Boi cosplayers too. Respect Ma Authoratah! A cosplay that comes with a license to kill.

These are your people CP.

I see everything through a Marxist lens, y'know? You are on the side of the king or you are not.

It's not a bad thing to be a bougie and I'm fairly certain it's genetic.

Societies always draw themselves up into two factions. White people vs POCs, Republicans vs Democrats, Christians vs All Other Faiths. Tories vs Labour, Bougies vs Proles.

The Haves, and the Have nots. The right and the left.

You, CP, sit at the right hand of the king, and I sit on the left.

I'm convinced that the Big Bang was the culmination of the eternal class struggle in another Universe and our concept of The Tetragrammaton, is the leader of one of the factions whose spirit got sucked through into this universe as his own was being destroyed. An Elder God in the Lovecraftian sense.

What were we talking about anyway...
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#326345 - 06/03/20 06:18 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: Greger]
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Millions and millions of machines dragged to all the precincts and set up for a few days then hauled back to warehouses to sit for two years seems a bit frivolous to me.


It's actually MUCH worse than that: Every single one of those machines has to be programmed correctly for the districts they will end up in. It requires a huge amount of IT-like physical work. Instead of workers just sitting at their computers specifying the ballots for each district, and then sending the info to the printers. That whole paper ballot process is highly automated. Delivery of paper ballots is done by truck drivers.

Programming voting machines is not. Somebody has to specify the ballots, and then manually hook each machine up to a computer, select the right district's ballot, download the code, then test the machine to make sure it works, has the right ballot, uploads the right totals, and then transport it to the right polling place, hook it up, and then test it again.

Any savings in printing costs is far outweighed by the cost of the people who have to support the machines.

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#326466 - 06/09/20 08:34 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL

Wealthiest, most powerful, nation on a globe with a standard of living unmatched in human history



Norway and New Zealand would like a word.

Quote:
and an imperfect but generally steady and increasing protection of individual liberties?


Eric Garner and George Floyd would like a word.
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#326467 - 06/09/20 08:34 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL
Originally Posted By: Greger
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the Diebold conspiracy theory


Has there ever been a single example of this proven? I aint gonna Google it because I doubt it. And like other stuff, so rare as to affect nothing.

Our voting system needs a complete overhaul.



laugh Agree. Service Guarantees Citizenship laugh


Our cult of the military is bad enough already.
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