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#326338 - 06/03/20 02:23 PM Re: Burn and Destroy [Re: pdx rick]
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...why Atlanta?

White privilege will never understands black solidarity. Hmm

What white privilege in Atlanta? It's a black fully run city. No whites in position of authority. What are they protesting in Atlanta, why the looting, riots etc in Atlanta. Protesting against the black mayor, protesting against the black police chief, against the majority black police force, against the local justice system which has a majority of black justices, against the majority black city council?

What white privilege in Atlanta? The only thing I can think of is the protest against all authority, authority wield by blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, perhaps the race of those in charge means nothing.

You can't blame what is happening in Atlanta on racism, white privilege, there's no whites in charge of anything. Atlanta is a totally black run city.
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#326339 - 06/03/20 04:30 PM Re: Burn and Destroy [Re: perotista]
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It's not the folks in charge, Pero, don't much matter who they are or what color...it's the system. A system that keeps poor people of all colors and creeds poor, sick, and uneducated. A system that favors the wealthy and the powerful above everyone else in a nation where freedom and justice is promised to all.
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#326343 - 06/03/20 06:02 PM Re: Burn and Destroy [Re: jgw]
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Speaking of the system, here's a pretty nice article about the two very different versions of rights and social contract that lies at the root of these protests:

Trump Cannot Descalate

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To cause more police brutality in the midst of a protest against police brutality is perfectly consistent with Trump’s actions in power. Trump defaults to white innocence and black guilt. He told cops not to be “too nice” in 2017 and pardoned Sheriff Joe Arpaio—one of the more abusive monsters in the carceral system, famous for torturing the people in his care. He advocated for the Central Park Five to remain incarcerated despite their proven innocence. Of course he’s expanding America’s two-tier system of policing. A right-winger’s fever dream of carte-blanche permissiveness, Trump has clarified that there will be no limits at all on what his supporters can do in public spaces—invade government buildings armed to the teeth, scream at police, defy local government, attack fellow citizens—while openly and gleefully bludgeoning opponents who protest peacefully.
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#326349 - 06/03/20 06:44 PM Re: Burn and Destroy [Re: jgw]
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I tend to believe that them acting out are the poor. Regardless of who is in charge the poor continue to get screwed over. They don't vote and they are POOR! This, I think, has to do with the division of wealth and the poor don't get that much of the pie. Then there is our media that tends to display this division for all to see, every day. Even the poor have TV's

How does it go? Something like "the poor will will always be with us" or something like that. The 'poor' is also a moving target. During the depression there was a march on the Washington state capital. A group of traveling Russians attended and were shocked. They pointed out that everybody on the march must have been rich as everybody had a car. Apparently, in Russia only the rich had cars. The problem is that the poor know when they are at the bottom of the pile - in their pile. This being the case we have a society that is constantly showing how them not at the bottom of the pile get to live. Over time I think that probably is like being forced to have something in your shoe that irritates but, for some reason, never gets fixed. Same with the poor. So, we have the poor acting out and a pile of them that are not 'helping'.

Oh, that story was told me by a philosophy professor at the University of Washington. Interesting guy. He lost his job because he used to be a Communist and McCarthy came along. He quit the party after understanding that the stock market allows everybody to take part in the wealth of the nation.

Just saying..............

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#326353 - 06/03/20 08:13 PM Re: Burn and Destroy [Re: perotista]
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Originally Posted By: perotista
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: perotista
...why Atlanta?

White privilege will never understands black solidarity. Hmm

What white privilege in Atlanta?

The comment was directed towards YOU. rolleyes
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#326355 - 06/03/20 09:35 PM Re: Burn and Destroy [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: perotista
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: perotista
...why Atlanta?

White privilege will never understands black solidarity. Hmm

What white privilege in Atlanta?

The comment was directed towards YOU. rolleyes

Considering who's in charge, I see none.
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#326356 - 06/03/20 09:46 PM Re: Burn and Destroy [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
It's not the folks in charge, Pero, don't much matter who they are or what color...it's the system. A system that keeps poor people of all colors and creeds poor, sick, and uneducated. A system that favors the wealthy and the powerful above everyone else in a nation where freedom and justice is promised to all.

Now this I understand. It's not a black/white issue as so many portray. There's many who say I have led a sheltered life. By that I mean 21 years active duty in the Army, another 26 working for the army as a civilian. Race, religion, I don't think many ever thought of that. No one ever turned around to the one who had your back covered and asked what race are you or what religion. We were a team, family. We were comrades in arms, brothers and sisters in uniform.

I never understood the mentality of civilians, the emphasis some put on race and religion. Now the military has it flaws, not perfect. But the military has the advantage that it can discharge its trouble makers, it racist if you will, the non-conformist. For the most you rise to the rank you deserve based on your skills and merits. Not on race or religion.
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#326358 - 06/04/20 01:44 AM Re: Burn and Destroy [Re: perotista]
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Originally Posted By: perotista
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: perotista
Originally Posted By: pdx rick

White privilege will never understands black solidarity. Hmm

What white privilege in Atlanta?

The comment was directed towards YOU. rolleyes

Considering who's in charge, I see none.

People of white privilege never do, is my point. smile
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#326360 - 06/04/20 03:12 AM Re: Burn and Destroy [Re: jgw]
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My impression is that the army of the US, more than any other service, may be a special case. They have been integrated for a LONG time. And it's not just lip service. There are Black, Hispanic, and Asian people throughout the ranks.
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#326366 - 06/04/20 04:52 PM Re: Burn and Destroy [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I think that's pretty much universal in our military.

What I don't understand are the guards that have appeared in DC that nobody knows or even where they come from. The TV keeps referring to them that way as well. These are, apparently, not the prison guards from Texas or the national guard.

One can only wonder, White nationalists, Supremacists?

Given how the military is reacting to all this stuff one can only REALLY wonder! What comes to mind is that Trump is actually going to make a move?

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