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#326468 - 06/09/20 08:44 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: pdx rick]
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It's just amazing how all the voting machine problems just happen to occur in largely black areas.

https://apnews.com/e7ea6e919fadb995c407eea3a4450176
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#326469 - 06/09/20 10:27 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: Greger]
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Wealthiest, most powerful, nation on a globe with a standard of living unmatched in human history and an imperfect but generally steady and increasing protection of individual liberties?

Fair enough. I'll take that hit. laugh


Have you asked George Floyd about the protection of his individual liberties?


I don't know. Have you spent much time discussing it with the Uighurs?

The perfect is not a proper enemy of the good - nor does the existence of abuse make what I wrote untrue.


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If he was alive to answer he might disagree. But if you ask the wealthy and powerful you find them all on your side. They are none of my concern. They'll get along fine. The boog bois are cowards. Did you see the one shooting arrows into the crowd? They won't go toe to toe with anyone because they are pussies. But they want the same things you do.


A law forbidding used car salesmen from making their own television commercials?

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Did you see the cops pushing down the old white man? They're Boog Boi cosplayers too. Respect Ma Authoratah! A cosplay that comes with a license to kill.

These are your people CP.

I see everything through a Marxist lens, y'know?


Yeah. So does the CCP. So did Lenin. So did Castro, and so do and did the host of cruel tyrants below them all who trampled tens of millions of George Floyds into the mud. You want to talk incredibly repressive and abusive governments who have horrific human rights records and care not whether they trample on those they rule? TheDictatorship by those who claim to speak on behalf of the proletariat? That would be your people. wink

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I'm convinced that the Big Bang was the culmination of the eternal class struggle in another Universe and our concept of The Tetragrammaton, is the leader of one of the factions whose spirit got sucked through into this universe as his own was being destroyed. An Elder God in the Lovecraftian sense.

What were we talking about anyway...


laugh I'm convinced that some artificial substances have played no small role in the development of that idea laugh
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#326470 - 06/09/20 10:30 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL
Have you spent much time discussing it with the Uighurs?

Because being oppressed by a government (China in this case) solely because of your religion is the same as being oppressed by racist white ignorant American individuals because of the color of your skin.

I think that's called a false-equivalency. Your mileage may vary. coffee
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#326471 - 06/09/20 10:32 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: Hamish Howl]
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Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: CPWILL

Wealthiest, most powerful, nation on a globe with a standard of living unmatched in human history


Norway and New Zealand would like a word.


They're welcome to have it.

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and an imperfect but generally steady and increasing protection of individual liberties?


Eric Garner and George Floyd would like a word.


Same answer to you as the answer above to Gregor (shrug). The perfect is not the enemy of the good, nor does the existence of abuses make what I wrote untrue. Even when you criticize Western Civilization, you depend upon it's own moral code to do so. I will happily take it over the alternatives.
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#326472 - 06/09/20 10:33 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: pdx rick]
CPWILL Offline
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: CPWILL
Have you spent much time discussing it with the Uighurs?

Because being oppressed by a government (China in this case) solely because of your religion is the same as being oppressed by racist white ignorant American individuals because of the color of your skin.

I think that's called a false-equivalency. Your mileage may vary. coffee


smile It's not intended to be considered equivalent. What is happening to the Uighurs is an order of magnitude or more worse than what African Americans face in this country today. That was the point.
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#326473 - 06/09/20 10:34 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: Hamish Howl]
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Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
It's just amazing how all the voting machine problems just happen to occur in largely black areas.

https://apnews.com/e7ea6e919fadb995c407eea3a4450176

Careful, someone might try to discount that fact as a "claim."

rolleyes, Hmm, coffee
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#326474 - 06/09/20 10:52 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: CPWILL]
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Wait! What?!? :doh:

Originally Posted By: CPWILL
It's not intended to be considered equivalent.


Originally Posted By: CPWILL
What is happening to the Uighurs is an order of magnitude or more worse than what African Americans face in this country today. That was the point.

You just made it an equivalency. LOL
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#326478 - 06/10/20 12:59 AM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Wait! What?!? :doh:

Originally Posted By: CPWILL
It's not intended to be considered equivalent.


Originally Posted By: CPWILL
What is happening to the Uighurs is an order of magnitude or more worse than what African Americans face in this country today. That was the point.

You just made it an equivalency. LOL



...No. To put forth an equivalency is to ascribe at least rough equality. I was making precisely the opposite point - that the two are nowhere near equal.


Edited by CPWILL (06/10/20 12:59 AM)
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#326480 - 06/10/20 01:03 AM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: CPWILL]
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Originally Posted By: CPWILL
...No. To put forth an equivalency is to ascribe at least rough equality. I was making precisely the opposite point - that the two are nowhere near equal.

Your pseudo-intellectually is completely laughable. Try learning what words mean before you try to opine in public discussions. Just a thought. smile
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#326488 - 06/10/20 05:58 PM Re: The Far-Right's Civil War aka "boogaloo" [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: CPWILL
...No. To put forth an equivalency is to ascribe at least rough equality. I was making precisely the opposite point - that the two are nowhere near equal.

Your pseudo-intellectually is completely laughable. Try learning what words mean before you try to opine in public discussions. Just a thought. smile


laugh Irony Much? smile

Equivalence: The state or condition of being equivalent; equality.
the state of being equivalent or interchangeable
the state or fact of being equivalent; equality in value, force, significance, etc.


As I said - to put forth an equivalency is to claim that two items are roughly equal in the matter being discussed. I not only didn't do that, the point that the two were not equivalent was precisely the one I was making.


Edited by CPWILL (06/10/20 05:59 PM)
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