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#326599 - 06/14/20 02:59 AM Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Gotcha. smile

That's 3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine. Good stuff, I highly recommend it. laugh

Not all C11H15NO2s are the same. Depends on where the H's are attached. smile
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#326604 - 06/14/20 05:00 AM Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Depends on where the H's are attached.

Indeed the H’1s and the H’2’s. The add into the mix the “non binaries” and you’ve got yetself a helluva stew!
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#326620 - 06/14/20 08:56 PM Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Actually, the H's go anywhere there is not something else. It's the other stuff like oxygen and nitrogen that are important. And of course the basic carbon ring and chain structure. All the cool stuff has a nitrogen right in one of the rings.
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#326622 - 06/14/20 10:57 PM Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Actually, the H's go anywhere there is not something else. It's the other stuff like oxygen and nitrogen that are important. And of course the basic carbon ring and chain structure. All the cool stuff has a nitrogen right in one of the rings.

You're our resident chemist P_I_A can you synthesize some 3,4 -C11H15NO2 and send me some? smile
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#326623 - 06/15/20 03:45 AM Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Individuals have not been able to buy any reagents from lab supply houses for a few years now, courtesy of the DEA. So amateur chemistry is dead as a hobby in the US. Even for guys who want to do perfectly legal stuff, like play with batteries or heat storage.

Anyway, based on my experiences as a youth, all the really fun stuff has an indole ring in it, like psilocybin and DMT. And anybody can make those with stuff they can order on the internet.

Just a fun fact: You can start an MDMA synthesis with black pepper from Costco. It's all the in between stuff that's impossible to get.

Anyway, can't you just buy that stuff at raves? No raves now, I suppose, but wouldn't an MDMA trip sitting home alone be really sad?

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#326627 - 06/15/20 05:09 PM Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Surprise: The Supreme Court (including Roberts and Gorsuch) think LGBTQ people are human beings with equal rights!

LGBTQ Employees Are Protected By Civil Rights

Finally. One of the original plaintiffs actually died a month ago. Sad she never got to see her victory.

Trump and Republican years-long efforts to legalize discrimination against LGBTQ people, and to pack the Supreme Court with conservatives, just FAILED completely. They spent millions of dollars to get Gorsuch on the court and his opinion just made all the the Trump administration rules to discriminate illegal.

Dozens of rules or laws are now going to be overturned, and there's not a damn thing Trump or the Senate can do about it.

The Supreme Court also just upheld California's sanctuary laws. You lose, Donnie! As usual.

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#326639 - 06/16/20 04:35 AM Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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You lose, Donnie! As usual


Have you ever seen anyone so consistently on the wrong side of history?

Every minute between now and November is going to be a microwave minute.
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#326640 - 06/16/20 04:45 AM Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all

I hope the Transgender peeps get their military jobs back. smile
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#326645 - 06/16/20 12:29 PM Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Some statues of Juan de Onate are now the target of the Anti Brutal Oppressors Brigade. Onate was a Conquistador who led the invasion and theft of much of New Mexico in the way-back of the 16th century. Some argue that removing statues of historical figures is the same as removing history, but isn’t everything that happens today just the future’s history?

Maybe it’s more like there’s an expiration date on some history, so it has to be removed from the shelf in order to restock with fresher and more healthy history.
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#326646 - 06/16/20 01:05 PM Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 [Re: logtroll]
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A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
H. sapiens is the species that invents symbols in which to invest passion and authority, then forgets that symbols are inventions. -Joyce Carol Oates, writer (b. 16 Jun 1938)
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