They only arrested 15 conspirators in the plan to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. It was yet another little group of White nationalists and there are a LOT of those folks and a lot of different organizations under that banner. If you google "list of white nationalist organizations" you will find stuff like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_white_nationalist_organizations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:White_supremacist_groups_in_the_United_States

These people easily put together a 1000+ armed car convoy in Portland, Ore with no problem at all. My point is that there are a LOT of these people (possibly hundreds of thousands!). Most are armed and most take great pride in their ignorance and they scare the sh*t out of me. On the other side there seems to be a philosophy, more than a group, called ANTIFA which has one simple claim. They are against Fascists which seem to be the White nationalists, et. al. For 4 years Trump has been coddling the White nationalists and, now, they have boldly sent Trump they are ready and willing to do whatever he wants and claim him as their leader!

We have about 4 weeks before this whole think really heats up. THEN, I think, we are going to get educated! I would remind all that OUR FBI has been, for years, warning us about these people and telling us that they are dangerous and need to be dealt with. I suspect that the time is neigh and I wish us all good luck! I main hope is that our Armed forces remain OURS and have not been suborned.

True, that.



Yup!



I've thought about this a little bit. The Rightwingers will most likely take out innocents, but the good LEOs will crush the Boogaloos and severely reduce their numbers.

LEO's means? (I found pizzas, atrology, etc, but ....)

Law Enforcement Officers.

Thank you! I should have figured that one out.

there is, however, some LEO's that seem to consider the White Nationalist folks their friends and allies. I remember that kid that killed two people walking down the street, with his gun, and the LEO's thanking him as well. There has been some concern about that.

This weekend I went to Portland. Haven't taken a trip since February out of state.

I was listening to Oregon Public Broadcasting (OPB) on the way back home. The station was broadcasting a New Yorker Magazine' podcast of: Oregon's racist past highlighting when Oregon was still a territory, "it passed its first Black e"xclusionary law. It banned slavery, but it also prohibited Black people from living in the territory for more than three years. If a Black person broke this law, the consequence was 39 lashes, every six months, until they left.

The territory passed another Black exclusion law five years later, in 1849. This one barred Black people who were not already in the area from entering or residing in Oregon territory."

The podcast stated that Portland is an island of blue in a red state and white nationalists resent that Portland metro dictates liberal policy and laws for the entire state.

The podcast cited the Pacific Northwest (PNW) as a bastion of white surpremists.

The show also discussed the recent FBI document showing how white supremacists have infiltrated LEO in the hope to draw liberals into a fight where these white nationalist LEOs can legally kill liberals and minorities.

That may work in the rural villages, but not in the big cities, where police have to answer to city councils and city counsels have to answer to the voters. It may take a while, but big city police departments WILL get to be less racist.

Boogaloo-boy-in-Chief Ahem... Trump has encouraged lawlessness throughout his occupancy, and never more so than with regard to this election. I fully expect cells of supremacists to take civil-violence actions for months following Biden's inauguration. I am not concerned about the military so much as I am rogue Sheriffs and small-town "chiefs" - we even have one running for Governor in Washington. These are guys that are used to using weapons indiscriminately - and have access to them - and suborning real law enforcement. They will use the "defund" rhetoric to increase their ranks. It is hard enough to keep LEO in line, now, imagine how hard it will be for the next decade.

I think I posted on this someplace else but, maybe not. I think Police are going to change whether they like it or not. The problem is simple - its just too damned expensive to let them carry on like they are now! These million dollar settlements are just too expensive! This is especially true, right now, as Covid-19 has emptied all the cookie jars.

I have always thought that when stuff goes wrong there are usually more than one reason why the wrong has to change and money is usually one of them.

I also believe that this business about police having the right to break the law just makes no sense whatsoever. Here is a list of the 10 most dangerous jobs, right now (police didn't even make the first 10!)
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.html
I added this as I have always been told that their job is VERY dangerous and it turns out not to be true and they should toe the line - just like the rest of us!

Big cities can generally afford those multimillion dollar settlements when police violate some civil rights or murder someone. I imagine that is not the case in small rural towns. One such settlement makes them uninsurable (if they even have insurance). The second bankrupts them, and state receivers raise property taxes to cover that expense. The town council and mayor all lose office at the next election. The police chief or sheriff "retires", etc.

Remember what happened to Joe Arpaio in Phoenix. Good example of police leadership changing when the public doesn't agree with their tactics.