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#329251 - 10/01/20 12:03 PM Re: The Boogaloo Bois [Re: pdx rick]
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During Tuesday night's debate, Donald Trump told the Proud Bois to "stand back and stand by." They group was extremely over the moon for the shout-out from their favorite white nationalist.

Posting on Parler, the rightwing alternative to Twitter, Proud Bois Chris P Bacon (get it? cispy bacon?) posted a picture of Trump and wrote, "standing-by sir."

One group, Proud Bois Cleveland, seemed emboldened by the reference, posting a photograph of what they described as a “friendly visit” with police and National Guard in the city streets.

Vice News has an article titled, 'Trump Basically Said to Go Fck Them Up': Here’s How the Proud Boys Reacted to Trump’s Comments stating, "White nationalists have embraced Trump's "Stand back and stand by" remark as a slogan and are celebrating what they see as a direct endorsement from the president."

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#329252 - 10/01/20 12:23 PM Re: The Boogaloo Bois [Re: pdx rick]
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White Supremacist Daily Stormer founder heard Trump's "Stand By" comment as a chilling command to "get ready for war." Andrew Anglin, founder of the neo-Naz website Daily Stormer, interpreted President Donald Trump’s “Stand back and stand by” remark as an unambiguous call to arms, writing on the site that the command “gave me shivers.”

Anglin wrote a lengthy, gushing commentary about Trump’s performance in Tuesday night’s presidential debate, and particularly the moment moderator Chris Wallace and former Vice President Joe Biden pressed Trump to explicitly condemn white supremacists and right-wing militia groups.
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#329255 - 10/01/20 06:32 PM Re: The Boogaloo Bois [Re: pdx rick]
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The use of the line “Stand back and stand by” was a little ambiguous to me. and these are passing thoughts .... did he really mean "those" words? did he mean "stand down" and forgot the words? are the words a call to wait and be ready for ... what? for something but what? for urban warfare?

But the most conclusive words were not spoken. "I denounce white supremacy in any form". Kinda straight forward ... it says what it means and means what it says. Now I am forced to conclude he did not denounce white supremacy (for whatever reason) and in fact waited until he was forced to say something in the proverbial walkback as a result of the blowback and yet still could not say the words. If your loved significant other can not say the words "I love you", you have to wonder ... do they really love me?

This is the case when he can't say the words so he does love them.
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#329257 - 10/01/20 06:51 PM Re: The Boogaloo Bois [Re: rporter314]
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Lotta folks can't even say that black lives matter.

Unless they turn it into a slur.

Can anyone recall Trump ever emphasizing that black lives do, in fact, matter?
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#329261 - 10/01/20 08:04 PM Re: The Boogaloo Bois [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Lotta folks can't even say that black lives matter.

Unless they turn it into a slur.

Can anyone recall Trump ever emphasizing that black lives do, in fact, matter?

You mean like when Trump called for the death penalty of those five black teens called "The Central Park 5" who were accused of a savage rape, went to prison for it, and then the real rapist was found, and the kids were released from prison, and Trump never apologized? Hmm
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#329486 - 10/08/20 09:53 PM Re: The Boogaloo Bois [Re: pdx rick]
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Interesting idea: If some prominent left-wing politician supported extremists and then some of them held target practice, built bombs, and plotted to kidnap or murder a governor, only to be infiltrated and recorded by the FBI, would that politician suffer any consequences? Would they be named as a co-conspirator?

Because that's exactly what happened when Trump supported alt-right extremism and a right-wing militia group plotted to kidnap or kill the governor of Michigan. They are in custody now, but what happens to Trump?

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#329491 - 10/09/20 02:24 AM Re: The Boogaloo Bois [Re: pdx rick]
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The Boogaloo Bois plotted to to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) and violently overthrow the MIchigan state government over her mask mandate and COVID-19 rules killing politicians and law enforcement.

The FBI began monitoring social media conversations about the violent overthrow of the state government and were able to use embedded agents and informants to thwart the plot.

An FBI affidavid detailing the alleged plot was filed on Thursday in federal court, following a raid on the home of 24-year-old Ty Garbin of Hartland Township, Michigan.

Garbin, who was one of those arrested, is mentioned by name in the affidavit, along with Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, and Brandon Caserta.
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#329492 - 10/09/20 02:44 AM Re: The Boogaloo Bois [Re: pdx rick]
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Tonight on PBS Newshour, known for their "factoids" in-between segments put up this factoid after Michigan/Boogaloo segment:

Quote:
Participating in a private militia is illegal in all 50 states.
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#329493 - 10/09/20 02:47 AM Re: The Boogaloo Bois [Re: pdx rick]
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The Right constantly screams and cries about antiFA, and they get so GRRRRR mad when people say that here is far more political violence coming from the Right. But antiFA activists are not out there plotting to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

And maybe, when they are, we can talk. Until then, shut the fck up about antiFA, rightwingers.

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#329500 - 10/09/20 06:22 PM Re: The Boogaloo Bois [Re: pdx rick]
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Its just a name. They don't know what antifa is or what the cause is .... they just need a face or name to direct their animus. The iconic Trump supporter is too ignorant to know or care what they are or stand for.
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