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#326575 - 06/12/20 07:51 PM Re: Defund the Police [Re: jgw]
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Schools do have nurses, advisors, etc. They just don't have enough! If you know any teachers they will tell you that. They also need mental health professionals of one sort or another and most schools just don't have any of those. As far as the cops go I remember, last year I think, watching the policeman hiding when a shooter came - it was pretty disgusting. On the other hand the cop was retired, old, and was not real eager to get shot. Since police have been assigned to schools there has also been constant reports on bad things done buy them to students.

I have no idea if they have done any good because, if they have, its not been reported all that much. On the other hand we are talking about American Media, here. This means that they will automatically report stories of bad cops, teachers, etc abusing but not all that many stories about the same folks doing good for the school and teachers. Its unfortunate but it's the way it is.

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#326589 - 06/13/20 05:42 PM Re: Defund the Police [Re: jgw]
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I have been watching the various plans to 'fix' the police thing. I have also decided that the only way to fix the police is to make sure that they are forced to take responsibility for their actions. If they break the law then they should be tried in court - no messing around, no union etc, When they break the law then they are treated exactly the same way anybody else is treated for breaking the law. There are also going to be a pile of rules to follow, when they break those rules they get to suffer the consequences for their action no more skating on that either.

Once they understand that they are no longer able to get away with all the crap they have been getting away with they will either change their ways or leave the service. There should be no other choices. If this is not done then all the other efforts will be for exactly NOTHING! If only this much gets done I suspect it will seriously change police behavior. Some will try to continue and, when they are found out, they get to go away - one way or another.

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#326591 - 06/13/20 09:30 PM Re: Defund the Police [Re: jgw]
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We probably them to all wear tamper-proof always-on body cams, that get reviewed every day after their shifts by AI. Then checked by humans if the AI spots anything hinky. That way they know if they do something illegal, they will get caught.

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#326616 - 06/14/20 05:49 PM Re: Defund the Police [Re: pondering_it_all]
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That is one solution. How about making sure that they cameras are turned on as long as they are on the job. I am not sure about watching every one of the video, maybe ai can do it, I have no idea.

I have, however, changed my mind on something. I think that the militarization needs to be done with. I now believe that the police actually believe that they are soldiers fighting the enemy. As such killing is just part of the job and everybody not in the police are the enemy and the enemy is always doing criminal things. This, I think, explains much...

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#326617 - 06/14/20 08:17 PM Re: Defund the Police [Re: jgw]
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Sure, I meant always-on cameras that were part of the uniform. Maybe built into the badge. I didn't mean we should watch them 24/7. Just when they are on duty. They don't wear their badge into the shower.

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#326630 - 06/15/20 06:14 PM Re: Defund the Police [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Yah, we still have agreement. The cameras should also be smart enough so that if there is wifi available then it sends the video to the cloud so nothing is 'lost'.

Its kinda like the cameras of london. Everybody was terribly concerned that it could be view by anybody. Turns out that was not true. The only time anybody takes a look is when something bad happened that might also be a video. I suspect the same will be true of police camera videos. Nobody gets to look unless a crime, or bad behavior, is probable.

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#326637 - 06/15/20 10:30 PM Re: Defund the Police [Re: jgw]
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That's why I said have AI screen it first. Almost everything a beat cop does is obviously not of interest. I imagine human reviewers would only be sent a few minutes out of every day. So they wouldn't need a huge number of reviewers.

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#326649 - 06/16/20 05:37 PM Re: Defund the Police [Re: jgw]
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Who knows? Perhaps the ai is smart enough to notice certain things that get flagged to watch a bit more closely. AI gets better and better everyday and many of them working with it also seem to be getting more and more nervous.

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#326886 - 06/23/20 06:43 PM Re: Defund the Police [Re: jgw]
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Here's some interesting polling numbers.

"64% Worry About Cop Shortage and Public Safety; Blacks Worry Most"

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...tm_medium=email
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