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#327591 - 07/25/20 08:02 PM Re: RoundTable for Summer 2020 [Re: Greger]
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I just ran a very simple test: Measured my SpO2 with my pulse oximeter: 97
Wore my mask for 10 minutes, measured again: 98

Wearing a mask (even two layers of cloth and a paper filter) does NOT cut down on your oxygenation. It raises it, because the thing that stimulates breathing is increased CO2 level, not lower oxygen level. When you wear a mask, your CO2 level goes up a bit (like holding your breath to get rid of hiccups) and you breathe more. This raises your oxygen level.

This phenomenon is well known to people who hike the Sierras: At high elevation, your CO2 level is lower so you breath less. This can lead to oxygen-deprivation elevation sickness. You need to remember to breath more, especially when you take a break and sit down.

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#327595 - 07/25/20 08:26 PM Re: RoundTable for Summer 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Sinclair is going to start broadcasting a crazy conspiracy theory that Dr.Fauci created the SARS-COV2 virus and then shipped it to Wuhan for release, just to make Trump lose the election.

The truth of the matter is that under Bush, the Wuhan Lab was working on a US NIH grant trying to get "gain-of-function" on corona viruses, so they could study them for effective strategies against future pandemics. "Gain-of-function" is science-speak for gaining the ability to jump from animals to humans, and human-to-human. In other words, to become pandemic-capable.

The Obama administration cancelled the grant, because they thought what they were doing was too dangerous. Then Trump came along and reversed everything Obama did, on general principle. So the funding was turned back on.

Did the lab release it on purpose? Very probably not. But humans have a very poor record of training the scut workers on safe procedures. Very likely, the lab did succeed without knowing and a ferret cage cleaner contracted the virus asymptomatically. Then he or she walked it right out the back door and into the human population.

So as much as anyone, this is Trump's virus. His administration used our tax dollars to pay for it. And all his attacks on China are just to cover that up. This "attack your enemy for your crimes" strategy is recurrent for Trump.

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#327597 - 07/25/20 09:49 PM Re: RoundTable for Summer 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Sinclair is going to start broadcasting a crazy conspiracy theory that Dr.Fauci created the SARS-COV2 virus and then shipped it to Wuhan for release, just to make Trump lose the election.

The Fairness Doctrine needs to be reinstated. It went away under idiot Reagan's Administration.
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#327622 - 07/26/20 06:47 PM Re: RoundTable for Summer 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Hurricane Douglas is going to pass directly over my sister-in-law's and brother-in-law's houses in a few hours. They both live on the North Shore of Maui. I doubt either one of them has boarded up any windows, but I also think the hurricane is weakening.

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#327627 - 07/26/20 07:24 PM Re: RoundTable for Summer 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Hurricane Douglas is going to pass directly over my sister-in-law's and brother-in-law's houses in a few hours. They both live on the North Shore of Maui. I doubt either one of them has boarded up any windows, but I also think the hurricane is weakening.

Yuuuuge Mormon population on the north shore of Mau'i. Are they Mormon? Hmm
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#327637 - 07/27/20 08:47 AM Re: RoundTable for Summer 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Nope, they are locals actually. Both Hapa. One is a retired University Professor and the other a retired CPA. They (and most of my wife's siblings) are from Kehei. Had careers on the mainland, but moved back home to retire. I think my wife's twin is the only religious one among them, and she's Catholic. My nephew almost became a Buddhist Monk. He left the monastery, found a husband, and they had a couple of lovely kids.

Fortunately, the hurricane passed well to the North, so they had moderate wind and rain, a few downed power lines from dead tree limbs, etc. 64 MPH gusts in Kula (part way up the volcano). 35 MPH in Kahului where they were. Probably going to miss Kauai, too.

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#327662 - 07/28/20 04:31 AM Re: RoundTable for Summer 2020 [Re: Greger]
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#327671 - 07/28/20 11:16 PM Re: RoundTable for Summer 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Republicans don't Care About People

Was there a sentient being that thought the Senate bill would have anything in it for the people taking the brunt of the COVID pain?

Bill Maher’s advice is always solid: You want to know what a Republican will do? Ask yourself, What would a dick do?
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#327675 - 07/29/20 04:11 AM Re: RoundTable for Summer 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Trump asked at his Covid presser today why doesn't anyone like him? Is that immoral dipshit THAT out of touch?

Hmm
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#327687 - 07/30/20 02:44 AM Re: RoundTable for Summer 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Sounds like something a dick would say.
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