Current Topics
Portland. A Turning Point?
by jgw
06:25 PM
Is it too soon to be talking 2020?
by perotista
10:22 PM
Medications that might help against SARS-CoV-2
by jgw
08:41 PM
Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century?
by Greger
06:36 PM
RoundTable for Summer 2020
by pdx rick
03:43 AM
What happens if the election doesn't settle due to voting problems?
by pondering_it_all
08/05/20 12:13 AM
Normal Stuff
by pondering_it_all
08/03/20 10:07 PM
A possible solution to rental problems.
by Irked
08/01/20 12:21 AM
Ongoing Slavery
by jgw
07/31/20 05:06 PM
The Departed - 2020
by pondering_it_all
07/29/20 01:33 AM
Seattle had a Riot!
by jgw
07/28/20 06:17 PM
The Boogaloo Bois
by pondering_it_all
07/25/20 08:08 PM
by Greger
07/24/20 11:08 PM
There needs to be a ‘real reckoning’ for Trump’s abuses if Biden wins
by pondering_it_all
07/24/20 09:35 PM
Deranged Trump supporter suspected in murdering son of judge
by Greger
07/24/20 05:54 PM
What is the purpose of Capitalism?
by logtroll
07/24/20 12:07 PM
Chad Wolf
by pdx rick
07/24/20 03:54 AM
why cities won't be able to stop Trump's secret police
by jgw
07/23/20 07:06 PM
Fox News anchor shared fabricated tweet in attempt to smear AOC
by rporter314
07/22/20 03:11 AM
We have now reached peak Libertarianism - and it is literally killing us
by jgw
07/21/20 07:07 PM
Forum Stats
6292 Members
60 Forums
16977 Topics
301757 Posts

Max Online: 294 @ 12/06/17 12:57 AM
Google Adsense
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#327508 - 07/20/20 08:33 PM Re: We have now reached peak Libertarianism - and it is literally killing us [Re: pondering_it_all]
pdx rick Offline

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 43112
Loc: Puget Sound, WA
Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
...[w]hat Conservatives actually want is for people to have the opportunity to make bad choices, so the Conservatives will be the "winners" and those poor idiots the "losers"...

I never thought of their actions in those terms before, but it does make sense. Conservatives are all about 'winning."

Contrarian, extraordinaire

#327510 - 07/20/20 08:45 PM Re: We have now reached peak Libertarianism - and it is literally killing us [Re: pdx rick]
pondering_it_all Offline

Registered: 02/27/06
Posts: 10124
Loc: North San Diego County
Not even "winning", as long as some other poor schmuck is "losing". Their greatest concern is that Black people's lives will be improved by some government action.

#327521 - 07/21/20 05:24 AM Re: We have now reached peak Libertarianism - and it is literally killing us [Re: pdx rick]
Irked Online   content

Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 3529
Loc: Somewhere out in left field
From the prophet of anti-authoritarianism:

One Two Three Four!
We are millions 'n' millions
We're coming to get you
We're protected by unions
So don't let it upset you
Can't escape the conclusion
It's probably God's Will
That civilization
Will grind to a standstill
And we are the people
Who will make it all happen
While yer children is sleepin'
Yer puppy is crappin'
You might call us Flakes
Or something else you might coin us
But we know you're so greedy
That you'll probably join us
We're comin' to get you, we're comin' to get you

It seemed a little over the top in ‘79, but now it does not seem to truly capture how depraved these people really are.
How eager they are to be slaves - Tiberius Caesar

Coulda tripped out easy, but I've changed my ways - Donovan

#327531 - 07/21/20 07:07 PM Re: We have now reached peak Libertarianism - and it is literally killing us [Re: pondering_it_all]
jgw Online   content

Registered: 05/22/06
Posts: 3451
Loc: Port Angeles, WA
The Communists make up for it by having a committee on just about everything. The Chinese do the same thing. All Committees are also members of the party. When you get them all in a room its a REALLY big room!

I don't think its all about winners and losers. I do know, from personal experience, that when somebody doesn't make the right choices, and are in trouble when in the end years, they are considered perfect examples for them coming behind. I have actually been told that if there were people starving on the streets they would be excellent examples for them coming later!

You are right, they do not make the right decisions. The miracle is that those were never their own fault. They will tell you that they did the right thing and the failure was not their fault. Usually its the fault of the opposition.

On reflection I think may be talking about 'losers' and 'winners' not so much as a situation of competition but rather as group names, ie. "He is a loser"? I am not sure about your examples of choices. Those retirees and poor who vote against their own best interests are, for the most party, literal ignoramuses, ie. walking two-by-fours. I think those are idiots who think they are on a winning side and its just not their fault (when they experience the results).

(I think we are in agreement and the differences are in how we express?)

Page 2 of 2 < 1 2

Who's Online
0 registered (), 47 Guests and 1 Spider online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Superfly, GreatNewsTonight, danarhea, RoughDraft274, CPWILL
6292 Registered Users