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#327508 - 07/20/20 08:33 PM Re: We have now reached peak Libertarianism - and it is literally killing us [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
...[w]hat Conservatives actually want is for people to have the opportunity to make bad choices, so the Conservatives will be the "winners" and those poor idiots the "losers"...

I never thought of their actions in those terms before, but it does make sense. Conservatives are all about 'winning."

Hmm
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#327510 - 07/20/20 08:45 PM Re: We have now reached peak Libertarianism - and it is literally killing us [Re: pdx rick]
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Not even "winning", as long as some other poor schmuck is "losing". Their greatest concern is that Black people's lives will be improved by some government action.

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#327521 - 07/21/20 05:24 AM Re: We have now reached peak Libertarianism - and it is literally killing us [Re: pdx rick]
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From the prophet of anti-authoritarianism:

Quote:
One Two Three Four!
FLAKES!
We are millions 'n' millions
We're coming to get you
We're protected by unions
So don't let it upset you
Can't escape the conclusion
It's probably God's Will
That civilization
Will grind to a standstill
And we are the people
Who will make it all happen
While yer children is sleepin'
Yer puppy is crappin'
You might call us Flakes
Or something else you might coin us
But we know you're so greedy
That you'll probably join us
We're comin' to get you, we're comin' to get you


It seemed a little over the top in ‘79, but now it does not seem to truly capture how depraved these people really are.
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#327531 - 07/21/20 07:07 PM Re: We have now reached peak Libertarianism - and it is literally killing us [Re: pondering_it_all]
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The Communists make up for it by having a committee on just about everything. The Chinese do the same thing. All Committees are also members of the party. When you get them all in a room its a REALLY big room!

I don't think its all about winners and losers. I do know, from personal experience, that when somebody doesn't make the right choices, and are in trouble when in the end years, they are considered perfect examples for them coming behind. I have actually been told that if there were people starving on the streets they would be excellent examples for them coming later!

You are right, they do not make the right decisions. The miracle is that those were never their own fault. They will tell you that they did the right thing and the failure was not their fault. Usually its the fault of the opposition.

On reflection I think may be talking about 'losers' and 'winners' not so much as a situation of competition but rather as group names, ie. "He is a loser"? I am not sure about your examples of choices. Those retirees and poor who vote against their own best interests are, for the most party, literal ignoramuses, ie. walking two-by-fours. I think those are idiots who think they are on a winning side and its just not their fault (when they experience the results).

Basically - ITS NEVER THEIR FAULT!
(I think we are in agreement and the differences are in how we express?)

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