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#329455 - 10/07/20 07:37 AM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Fiasco at Public Health England: Seems they were using an obsolete version of Excell as their database of cases to track. On about September 24th, the number of active cases in the database went over 65535, so Excell just dropped any additions. Somebody just noticed the number had remained at that level for a couple of weeks. They failed to track about 16000 cases. The average number of close contacts per case is three, so about 48,000 potentially exposed people have been merrily wandering around England when they should have been isolated or taking precautions.

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#329555 - 10/12/20 02:51 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I've been perseverating over COVID (well, really since it began) especially since my negative test. Then Trump tested positive. Virtually the entire month has seen a national plateau of 750 deaths/40-45,000+ cases a day. About 10% of the population has been exposed. That means we are not getting rid of this thing any time soon. And Trump is not living in the real world, inviting all of us to join him in unreality. ARGH!

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#329570 - 10/12/20 08:52 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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So much of the Republican version of Covid-19 is based on the idea that it's harmless to most people. That is a myth. It may leave most people who have "recovered" with hidden long-term injuries. And not just the "long-haulers". I'm talking about young people who were asymptomatic.

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#329582 - 10/13/20 05:07 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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#329585 - 10/13/20 07:24 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I see the Johnson & Johnson vaccine trials are all halted because one test subject got sick. They have not said what the symptom is yet. More to follow, I suppose.

Oxford vaccine trial is still halted in the US.

So much for a vaccine by election day. I think this is why Eric Trump is now calling the MAB cocktail a "vaccine": So they can tell their followers a "vaccine" is ready. Sure if you have a helicopter to fly you to Walter Reed, and play golf with the Regeneron CEO. And get to ignore FDA approval, of course.

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#329626 - 10/16/20 08:51 AM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Eli Lilly's monoclonal antibody trial is halted because of a test subject's side effect. I wonder it the Regeneron MAB will have the same side effects in it's trial. Hope it doesn't affect 74 year old fat guys.

There is such a thing as antibody enhanced infection. Basically, an antibody locked onto a virus is ingested by one of the immune cells, and then the virus starts reproducing inside the immune cell. I guess we will see if this happens as these trials progress, and participants get exposed to more virus.

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#329691 - 10/20/20 05:11 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Here are a couple of links on vaccines. The Chinese seem to be well ahead of everybody else. They have had some of their vaccines in phase 3 for 4/5 months worldwide. India is slightly behind but moving right along. There have also been some of these vaccines that have been stopped for one reason or another. There is also indications that some are going public in the near future. Some of the American efforts are covered as well but seem to be in question by many.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-new...DNpH6Mnh8L.html

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32137-1/fulltext

https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/go...idelines-135784

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#329722 - Yesterday at 11:05 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Know what would be way more effective than a vaccine? Tell everybody to go out and get enough food and medicine for two weeks. Supply MRE's and drinking water for people too poor or unable to get out to shop. Then have an absolute lockdown for two weeks. No "essential worker" exceptions, other that first responders. All businesses close for two weeks. The only people on the streets are cops, firemen, and utility repair crews.

The pandemic would be over. After that two weeks we could all go back to work, play, bars, restaurants, casual sex, etc. But cops would have to arrest and jail people who evaded quarantine. They also need to do the same in jails and prisons. Segregate people who are contagious using those spit test strips. Same in nursing homes, mental hospitals, and any place where people are forced together.

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