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#330104 - 11/09/20 07:01 AM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I see that the UK Prime Minister is saying the National Health is going to be delivering a 4 month supply of Vitamin D3 to every elderly or very susceptible person in the UK soon. I think it will come in the mail. It will be very interesting to see if their death rate drops quickly over the next month or two.

I think the "control group" will be the US population! Have not found out what dose they will supply. Hope it's enough to make a difference.

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#330106 - 11/09/20 11:48 AM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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This could lead to some interesting lawsuits for reckless negligence when they give it to somebody who then dies.
I don't understand why a large number of people from states such as FL or SD have not filed lawsuits for reckless endangerment and of course ultimately filed against Mr Trump. I mean these characters are actively trying to get people killed with their lack of actions in the face of a known public health risks.
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#330112 - 11/09/20 08:30 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I think their suits would be dismissed immediately. Hard to prove the people filing the suit were not the ones being reckless when they failed to wear a mask at a Trump rally. But people who went to the hospital for their Covid-19 symptoms and then refused to be tested because they didn't want to be inconvenienced, show a much higher degree of reckless negligence.

Ordinary negligence is just a product of stupidity. Reckless negligence shows evil intent.
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#330114 - 11/09/20 08:41 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Another good laugh from the Trump Administration:

Pfizer announced their vaccine looks like it is 90% effective. Pence immediately tweeted about Trump's partnership with Pfizer through Operation Warpspeed, and how wonderful his leadership on the pandemic.

The head of Pfizer's Vaccine Development group responded quickly to correct Pence, saying Pfizer was not in Project Warpspeed and had never taken any money from the government!

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#330118 - 11/10/20 02:10 AM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I see that the government has signed an agreement to buy 75,000 doses of Lilly's monoclonal antibody at $5000 a pop. That seems like a lot to pay for something that works best immediately after exposure and offers maybe three months of passive immunity. If you wait until somebody has symptoms, it does very little. If you wait until you see serious symptoms, it will do nothing at all. Might even make those patients sicker!

Antibodies are great to have before you get exposed: They either prevent infection or make it much milder. But there is a huge difference between a vaccine giving you the ability to make your own antibodies when needed (which may last for years), and monoclonal antibody that makes you immune for three months and does not teach your immune system anything. I see it having value for health care workers who work with Covid-19 patients, but still it would cost a bit. Maybe just give it to those workers once, and hope they get vaccinated before their three months is up.

I suspect 2 cents per day of Vitamin D is a much better solution, because we can afford to give that to everybody in the country. Anybody exposed gets zinc and ivermectin, with a cost of about $1.

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#330128 - 11/10/20 06:54 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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This is probably going to help anybody who bought a lot of their stock recently. This one doesn't require taking the drug at all! One can only wonder, might it be possible that somebody, who has, or had, the name Trump a recent big buyer of that stock? Hmmmmmmm.............

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#330140 - 11/11/20 09:58 AM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I don't think so. Trump is golf buddies with the owner of Regeneron, who gave him their monoclonal antibody product. Lilly is a competitor with their monoclonal antibody product.

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#330142 - 11/11/20 12:40 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Where’s the profit in that?

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#330155 - 11/11/20 06:55 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Kid's Colds May Provide Immunity to Covid-19

As predicted:
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The researchers then looked at 300 blood samples collected pre-pandemic, and found that nearly all of those individuals had antibodies that protect against coronaviruses that cause the common cold. (There are many different strains of coronaviruses, some of which cause the common cold.)

In addition, around 5% of the adults had antibodies that would “recognize” SARS-CoV-2 even if they hadn’t had a cold around the time their blood was drawn. And 7% of the adults who had recently come down with a cold had similar antibodies.

Perhaps even more striking: Nearly half of the children in the small study had antibodies that would recognize SARS-CoV-2.



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#330156 - 11/11/20 07:06 PM Re: Coronavirus: The Plague of The 21st Century? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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We have been watching Trump, for several years, deny even knowing somebody that was his very best pal. I don't think he has friends, just suckers.

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