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#329818 - 10/28/20 07:32 PM Re: The Vote Rule [Re: perotista]
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Both major parties owe their heart and soul to the moneyed folks, to corporations, wall street firms, lobbyist, special interest groups, mega money donors.


Turns out that people with money have always gotten preferential treatment from governments. All they did was go to county court and request infrastructure (remember America was an agrarian society until about 1890) to take their goods to market and governments were compliant. Of course there was a penalty of sorts. Personal property & real estate tax. Yep ... people were taxed on their personal property ... gold watches, coaches, race horses, etc., basically stated as a wealth tax.
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#329819 - 10/28/20 07:35 PM Re: The Vote Rule [Re: perotista]
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Paper ballots ..... LOL

But do you remember when local papers published a list by name of who voted for whom in elections. Yep they used to do it. Secret ballots .... some modern nonsense.
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#329821 - 10/28/20 10:16 PM Re: The Vote Rule [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
Paper ballots ..... LOL

But do you remember when local papers published a list by name of who voted for whom in elections. Yep they used to do it. Secret ballots .... some modern nonsense.


Yeah, paper ballots. Lots of good research on various types of voting tech and security.. Paper ballot wins. Look into it

It's what allowed left politics to resume where our supported coup interrupted in Bolivia. Hard to hack. That and an overwhelming victory at the polls.

Our elections security is shaky at best.

Mail-in's allow more reasons for ballots to be disregarded, by the way. Harder to stop one from voting in person, many arbitrary rules to be used with the mail in. Lawyer up indeed.

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#329822 - 10/28/20 10:22 PM Re: The Vote Rule [Re: jgw]
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It's perfectly simple...


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#329826 - 10/29/20 12:24 PM Re: The Vote Rule [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Originally Posted By: rporter314
Paper ballots ..... LOL

But do you remember when local papers published a list by name of who voted for whom in elections. Yep they used to do it. Secret ballots .... some modern nonsense.


Yeah, paper ballots. Lots of good research on various types of voting tech and security.. Paper ballot wins.

Chunk is right about paper ballots. Hmm
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#329837 - 10/29/20 07:50 PM Re: The Vote Rule [Re: perotista]
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Most of our elected know who brought them to the party and try to accommodate their wishes if possible. that's just the way it is (at least that has been my experience) I think what you are suggesting is that they only listen to only them that paid for their election and, that, I think, is not true as that would be a sure way to lose votes.

As far as the rest is concerned I will forego speculation as first we gotta win and then see what happens. THEN, if right, you will have the pleasure of crowing your incredible powers of prediction, prognostication and prophecy! (seems fair to me!)

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#329838 - 10/29/20 08:08 PM Re: The Vote Rule [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I wrote to my county's auditor about how they count the votes and how fast their readers are. Here is what she told me (pretty interesting!):

Our ballot scanner reads about 200 images per minute. Here is a link to a PDF that has quick points about the scanner we use. https://www.fujitsu.com/us/Images/fi-6400_Brochure_052115_v2.pdf

I am also including a link to a video from Pierce County Elections. They use the same Clear Ballot Tabulation system we use. Scroll to the bottom of the page. https://clearballot.com/products/clear-count It's a great eight minute video that talks all about the system. Shortly after the beginning of the video you will see a quick shot of the scanner above scanning in a couple of ballots. Please remember they are a bigger county, so the amount of people they have working in the video is on a much larger scale than Clallam County, but the overall process is almost the same.

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#329839 - 10/29/20 09:58 PM Re: The Vote Rule [Re: jgw]
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Originally Posted By: jgw


As far as the rest is concerned I will forego speculation as first we gotta win and then see what happens. THEN, if right, you will have the pleasure of crowing your incredible powers of prediction, prognostication and prophecy! (seems fair to me!)


My prediction: A venal, corrupt, pathological liar with a history of sexual harassment will be elected and the rich will get richer.

Wanna bet JGW?

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#329841 - 10/30/20 02:10 AM Re: The Vote Rule [Re: chunkstyle]
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A venal, corrupt, pathological liar with a history of sexual harassment will be elected and the rich will get richer.


Seriously? The guy who rode the train home from DC every night for 35 years? I'm not exactly ideologically aligned with the man and I wanted ANYBODY but him to be the president. But he's a decent guy who has done more than most in congress for working people. He'll be a decent president.

I wanted a fun and exciting president. But right now decent suits me fine.
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#329862 - 10/31/20 08:43 PM Re: The Vote Rule [Re: Greger]
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No, I’m not.
He has a history. You can either ignore it or buy into the campaign narrative ads but it’s there to be discussed.

One thing about the timed is how unable so many people are to admit to the current moment. Russia conspiracy on one side, pedophilia, adrenacrome harvesting caves on the other. Chinese setting off viruses to wreck our economy, pee tapes and phoney dossiers.



I’m not going to kid myself into believing the ‘lunchbox Joe’ campaign ad fantasies.

I’ve posted my short list on his negatives not long ago. What you got?

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