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#329830 - 10/29/20 01:24 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: rporter314]
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I must be slow on the uptake. There have been several real serious folks cogitating over this very question. Yes it should be readily apparent he will expose his corruption (which his supporters would be thrilled as it is in your face) but there could be more noxious repercussions.

This guy is a pox on humanity.
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#329832 - 10/29/20 02:25 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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A good question rporter.
My guess would be to steal anything else that hasn’t been already and is not nailed down.
Unfortunately, american politics and political discussion has resolved solely around ‘gotta get rid of Trump!’ As the be all end all topic worth considering.

Should we also be asking what will be the damage should Biden prevail and his administration gets confirmed? The fact that it will be a republicrat west wing brained cabinet tells me it will be an ongoing ‘bipartisan’ fetishizing administration with the worst tendencies of both political factions being applied. Names being floated for his cabinet does not inspire confidence in the future.

Just a thought.


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#329833 - 10/29/20 03:40 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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We're all listening to tea leaf readers now but Blyth called it right in 2016. A good conversation but the election comes in around 13 minutes.

Not saying he's right again but I do pay attention to the people who have a track record vs. ones who draw a paycheck being a partisan hack.

Place your bets accordingly...

Economics and the Election with Mark Blyth


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#329836 - 10/29/20 07:48 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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If the election were held today, I'd go Biden 52%, Trump 45%, Jorgensen 2%, Hawkins 1% in the nationwide popular vote. I'd also give the senate to the Dems by at least a 51-49 margin with possibility if Biden has long coat tails of a possible 54-46. I'd also give the Dems a net gain of 5-10 seats in the House.

The senate, Alabama to the GOP, Arizona, Colorado, Maine, North Carolina, Iowa to the Demos with the possibility of picking up Montana, the two Georgia seats with Mississippi, Texas and South Carolina being long shots if Biden wins by 10 or more points which I don't think he will. Montana and the two Georgia seats are close to 50-50 with the GOP having a very slight edge. I expect both Georgia seats to go to a January runoff.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Biden wins Georgia, right now Trump is a very slight favorite by a point or two.
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#329840 - 10/30/20 01:18 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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I think Dems have found a secret weapon in Nevada

Thinking outside the box

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#329842 - 10/30/20 04:18 AM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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TU 10/27 on Fresh Air episode with Terry Gross, Terry interviewed Evan Osnos, Joe Biden biographer.

You know how social justice warriors are tying to make all criminal drug charges not be criminal and just have rehabilitated "drug courts?" It turns out all of that was a part of the 1994 Crime Bill that Biden is getting beat-up for.

It also turns out that Newt Gingrich and the Republican controlled Congress striped-out all of the "good stuff" like "drug courts" and just kept the harsher parts.

Now...that makes sense to me why Joe Biden would sponsor such a Bill in the first place. Hmm

Republicans can't help but show the awful side of their humanity. crazy
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#329843 - 10/30/20 01:38 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: pdx rick]
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This your guy Rick?


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#329845 - 10/30/20 05:02 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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Nearly 30 years ago...What he said made sense then. But there has been a sea change over the last decade or two and Biden's thinking has evolved along with it.

neoliberalism hasn't breathed it's last yet, but it's breath is getting short.
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#329849 - 10/30/20 09:33 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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I find this very interesting and it may be what I've been looking for ever since Ross Perot broke on the scene.

Some ‘Biden Republicans’ just keep talking about a new political party

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/third...-170245426.html

I've been unaffiliated for my entire life except for a few years as a member of the Reform Party. What that means is I supported the republicans on some issues and some candidates and the democrats on other issues and other candidates.

A political party somewhere in-between the far left Democrats and far right GOP would be ideal for me. I wonder how many more would find that appealing. It may all boil down to what Biden and the Democrats do once they're in full power.

Will it come about? Probably not. Both major parties have a monopoly on our electoral system and they'll do anything to maintain which I found out with the Reform Party. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see the Democrats help the Republican Party to brush this idea aside. It's in both major parties interest to maintain their monopoly. So we'll see as time passes.
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#329851 - 10/30/20 09:46 PM Re: Is it too soon to be talking 2020? [Re: chunkstyle]
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I don't think the mainstream Democratic Party is as "Far Left" as you seem to think. Sure, there are some progressive "stars" like the gang of five in the House. But almost half the House is pretty centrist. On the other hand, pretty much all of the House Republicans are Trump supporters. The moderates are most Lincoln Project supporters. Rare as hen's teeth.

So I think your ideal "Centrist Party" does already exist, and it's called The Democratic Party.

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