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#330544 - 12/01/20 02:46 PM
Re: Roundtable for Samhain 2020
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Words are sometimes strange. For instance, "right" and "rights" can be diametrically opposed: synonyms for "right" include goodness, righteousness, responsible, virtue; synonyms for "rights" include entitlement, privilege, advantage, prerogative.
I know that there is a bunch of dissension over some pandemic response strategies, especially around masks and limited gatherings. It is also dissension between what is "right" (responsible) and "rights" (entitlement to do what you want).
We could also classify this difference of opinion as "consideration of others" vs "consideration of self".
Is this the fundamental (and heavily generalized, I admit) difference between modern Liberal and Conservative philosophies?
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#330552 - 12/02/20 04:34 PM
Re: Roundtable for Samhain 2020
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Words are sometimes strange. For instance, "right" and "rights" can be diametrically opposed: synonyms for "right" include goodness, righteousness, responsible, virtue; synonyms for "rights" include entitlement, privilege, advantage, prerogative.
I know that there is a bunch of dissension over some pandemic response strategies, especially around masks and limited gatherings. It is also dissension between what is "right" (responsible) and "rights" (entitlement to do what you want).
We could also classify this difference of opinion as "consideration of others" vs "consideration of self".
Is this the fundamental (and heavily generalized, I admit) difference between modern Liberal and Conservative philosophies? You are absolutely correct: Being right (correct) and right wing are opposite. Consideration of self or others does appear to be the dividing line between conservatives and liberals. I've been having a spirited discussion about student loan forgiveness as part of a change of national policy regarding education. It's ironic, in some cases, that "fairness" turns on whether we're talking about individuals or the "class" of similarly situated individuals. Some erstwhile liberals balk at providing a benefit to others because they "paid for theirs".
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#330562 - 12/03/20 11:45 AM
Re: Roundtable for Samhain 2020
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Can't seem to find the obit forum! Here you go PIA. It's called the History Roundtable forum.
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#330568 - 12/03/20 07:51 PM
Re: Roundtable for Samhain 2020
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Thanks. I was searching for Passing Parade, obituary, musicians who died recently, etc. The Search function leaves a bit to be desired since it can only search a year at a time. Some of us have been here a lot longer.
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#330574 - 12/04/20 07:45 PM
Re: Roundtable for Samhain 2020
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Thought I would add, on the drug front, that Oregon is now leader of the pack since they de-criminalized virtually ALL drugs! First step of the Portuguese solution! Now police won't need to harass the victims and go after the sellers! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
Edited by jgw (12/04/20 07:50 PM)
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