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#331043 - 12/31/20 09:49 PM Re: All the wonderful things Trump has done [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
I remember the blue dog days and rants against immigrants too, Rick.

Indeed, when I first came to RR. I evolved around 2010 when the TParty held a mirror up to me. I didn't want to be like them. smile

Originally Posted By: Greger
Only Joe could win, right? But what's next? Center right austerity, starving children, no debt relief for the poors, evictions in the millions? We could have had all that with Trump! Biden is just Republican light/moderate conservatism. But with a D instead of an R.


Are we tired of all the winning yet?

We just have to be on Joe to more more to the left. I read your link Jacobin Magazine link, and I'm very disappointed about Kamala. I also heard about the 41 Dems on NPR...but it was not explained on NPR the way that Jacobin Magazine explained what happened.

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#331044 - 12/31/20 11:14 PM Re: All the wonderful things Trump has done [Re: pdx rick]
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Iím responding to your current position of unconditional support for a brand that is as destructive to working Americans as the other in many ways.

Your either in the side of the oppressed or on the side of the oppressor. Joe Biden is an oppressor. It makes little difference if he has a D next to his name.
Trump has his own built in dangers but showed himself to be nonaligned ideologically. Biden, for the most part, had been to neoliberalism.

I can make the case that Biden has gone as much if not more damage than Trump over his career. You seem comfortable running defense for the man.

Shouldnít the rational attitude be critical of someone as offensive as Biden and the political machine that he represents?

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#331047 - 01/01/21 03:00 AM Re: All the wonderful things Trump has done [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
IíShouldnít the rational attitude be critical of someone as offensive as Biden and the political machine that he represents?

What's more offensive is that you'd like Trump to have been re-elected. mad
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#331053 - 01/01/21 03:20 PM Re: All the wonderful things Trump has done [Re: jgw]
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Between the two choices, I donít see much upsides. Trump may have been goaded into M4A. Bidenís not going to budge.

Spare some of your offended anger at the next racist, corrupt pathological liar about to enter the whitehouse.

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#331055 - 01/01/21 04:36 PM Re: All the wonderful things Trump has done [Re: chunkstyle]
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Between the two choices, I donít see much upsides. Trump may have been goaded into M4A. Bidenís not going to budge.

Spare some of your offended anger at the next racist, corrupt pathological liar about to enter the whitehouse.

Why do you say that Joe is racist...because of the 1994 Crime Bill? The very same Bill that Jim Clayburn voted for? smile
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#331060 - 01/02/21 02:35 AM Re: All the wonderful things Trump has done [Re: pdx rick]
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Yes. The crime bill would be one good example.

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