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#331571 - 01/18/21 07:24 AM Re: Post-Election Mischief [Re: NW Ponderer]
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NJ man with ‘secret’ security clearance at Navy base charged in Capitol riot

Many of the attendees at the insurrection were Oath Keepers. They're the law enforcement wing of the Rightwing whackadoos.
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#331585 - 01/18/21 10:08 PM Re: Post-Election Mischief [Re: NW Ponderer]
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This seems a good place for this. The last word on Trump's job approval.

Last Trump Job Approval 34%; Average Is Record-Low 41% You can compare Trump with all other presidents going back to FDR.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/328637/last...ign=syndication
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#331592 - 01/19/21 12:19 AM Re: Post-Election Mischief [Re: perotista]
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Seems like that's about where Bush wound up.
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#331601 - 01/19/21 02:37 PM Re: Post-Election Mischief [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I talk a lot about comfort zones effecting elections, I was comfortable with every president I personally experienced in my lifetime since IKE. I was born right after WWII, so I can't remember Truman, too Young. That is, I was comfortable with every president until Trump. Trump I wasn't. He was in it for himself and only himself. Not for the country or even his political party.

I was comfortable with G.W being president. I think he did somethings wrong, but that has been the case with every president in my lifetime. I'll add beginning with Eisenhower/Stevenson, I also would have been comfortable with every losing presidential candidate also with the exception of McGovern and Hillary Clinton. Hence my vote for Johnson against both Trump and Clinton.
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#331603 - 01/19/21 04:23 PM Re: Post-Election Mischief [Re: NW Ponderer]
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You have seen in books and movies plots to overthrow the government from Manchurian candidates (in Mr Trump's case, a Russian candidate with intentions to destroy America from within) to JC cabal intent on subverting and overthrowing the government.

We are now in the uncharted territory of that fictional world where the FBI has alerted relevant entities of the possibility of a Qanon styled op designed on the German's Operation Grief.

We have already had sedition and insurrection prosecuted in and around the Capitol. Who would have thunk it just a few short months ago?
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#331605 - 01/19/21 07:12 PM Re: Post-Election Mischief [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Not me. But anything dealing with Trump is unknown and uncharted territory. With Trump you can throw out conventional wisdom and history.
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#331652 - 01/21/21 10:41 PM Re: Post-Election Mischief [Re: perotista]
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That's the trouble with basing everything on statistics of past races. We really were in uncharted territory. Old "knowns" like Republicans being extremely anti-Russian, law-and-order, and Pat Nixon's "good Republican cloth coat" were out the window.

Their future looks pretty bleak right now. If they can pull off a revival to traditional Republican values, they might be able to return. Might help them if Trump was in prison or dead. Otherwise, the Patriot Party and Republicans are going to split the Right vote and elect Democrats as far as the eye can see.

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#331654 - 01/22/21 02:11 AM Re: Post-Election Mischief [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Time will tell what happens in the future. It's a lot tougher than one thinks in establishing a new party and getting that new party on all the state ballots. I went though that once with Perot and the Reform Party.

It might actually be a good thing if the GOP did split. Trump's family business is losing millions since 6 Jan D.C. riot. From anywhere from losing a PGA event to banks saying they'll do no more business with him. Trump may not have that much time for politics if he wants to get or keep his family business on solid ground once more.
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#331664 - 01/22/21 09:32 PM Re: Post-Election Mischief [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Not to mention all those loans coming due.

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#331668 - 01/23/21 12:31 AM Re: Post-Election Mischief [Re: perotista]
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Nice to meet you perotista.
I'm not surprised that you would be uncomfortable with McGovern, but with Hillary Clinton compared to Rump?

I am shocked, however, by your claiming to have been comfortable with all other post-WWII losing presidential candidates. Purrhaps you may have overlooked the most successful third party candidate of our lifetimes, George Wallace, or at least I hope so!

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