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#332347 - 02/15/21 11:45 PM Re: An amusement - no politics! [Re: Greger]
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HI BC Bob,
I see and hear from your homepage that you like many of us are rekindling our musical interests, with no reason whatever to avoid practicing from lack of free time!

I rebuilt my Mother's baby grand and started up piano again. The concert band broke up with the plague, so my recidivist French horn playing took a dive, making me realize that much of my practice was motivated by avoidance of public humiliation!

My daughter abandoned an electronic keyboard, a couple of electric guitars and a bass with amps, when she moved abroad, 10 miles away, so I have been fiddling with them. The cats really enjoy this but from an undisclosed location!

I recall an image of yours surrounded by guitars of all types, and am wondering if you have gotten the band back together on multitracks, or where your musical talent have taken you?

I tried soothing the neighborhood's covid anxiety with front porch keyboard renditions of Amazing Grace and Nearer my God to Thee, but they we not cheered! grin
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#332355 - 02/16/21 03:55 AM Re: An amusement - no politics! [Re: jgw]
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My mother left an upright piano when she passed. Technically, it belongs to my sister now but she's 500 miles away locked down. Neither she or any of her kids play. I'm wondering if it makes more sense to sell it and send her the money, rather than trying to move it. I've got a whole storage locker filled with Mom's stuff that goes to my sister. I'm think pick out the best stuff, put it in one of those cubes, and send that to her.

Everything else can go to my brother-in-law who runs estate sales.

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#332356 - 02/16/21 05:07 AM Re: An amusement - no politics! [Re: pondering_it_all]
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There is a huge glut of pianos on the market as people downsize or die, so the price of used pianos has severely crashed. They typically go for free to whoever will come and take them away, not an easy task. Frankly uprights are harder to move than grands. For a grand you just remove the legs and tip it onto a dolly, uprights are more dense and have fewer handholds. Churches and other charitable organizations have stopped accepting them, and even have seminars to break the news to well meaning donors, so great is the problem.

Grands are similarly devalued and may need hundreds of dollars of repairs to make them playable.

So, bottom line, unless they are a particularly valuable quality instrument, or of sentimental value, they are rarely worth restoring, or moving. My mother's was a pre-depression Weber that was comparable to a Steinway in 1923, which is almost qualified as an antique by NY State. This is important because it has actual elephant ivory keys, and cannot any longer be moved by NY movers till its 100th birthday!
Tuning and regulating a piano are different operations. Tuning is pretty obvious, though there are many fine points to it, but regulation is adjusting all 88 keys to be equally responsive to touch, weight of pressure to striking, and similar in tone. NYS is a new kind of piano regulation! mad Good piano techs are also getting harder to find, and more expensive.
Probably more than you wanted to know, but as long as I have studied it, Im glad to overshare!]
Never believed in the concept of TMI! grin
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#332360 - 02/16/21 09:53 AM Re: An amusement - no politics! [Re: jgw]
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I have found a music warehouse that (might) come and pick it up. They sell it on consignment. I don't expect to get much for it. Modern digital keyboards are so much cheaper and dead easy to transport. They never need tuning. And they can even be adjusted to tune every key up or down at once to match another instrument. Much nicer, in my book. Even my mother's adopted son who is a purist, preferred his electronic piano, and he lived right next door to this upright and could have played it any time.

I think the estate sale business and trailer sales will both be strongly affected by Covid-19. Too many old folks stuff makes a glut in the market. I have three complete sets of expensive china of my mom's, and all I want is some more Corelle dinner plates. Her silverware might be worth more in melt value.

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#332428 - 02/17/21 07:46 PM Re: An amusement - no politics! [Re: jgw]
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I don't think there is a garbage dump in America that doesn't have a couple of old pianos in it. Keyboards have taken over. On top of that Goodwill will sell you one cheap!

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#332448 - 02/18/21 04:58 AM Re: An amusement - no politics! [Re: jgw]
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I have great disdain for those who think that the sound experience of electronic keyboards is in any way comparable to a real piano! There is just no way that even the electronic wizards at Yamaha can accurately reproduce the unique sound of an artisan piano!
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Artisan Pianos, There is no Substitute!






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#332504 - 02/19/21 12:42 AM Re: An amusement - no politics! [Re: TatumAH]
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#332509 - 02/19/21 01:07 AM Re: An amusement - no politics! [Re: logtroll]
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#332519 - 02/19/21 02:16 AM Re: An amusement - no politics! [Re: TatumAH]
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Originally Posted By: TatumAH
[quote]There is just no way that even the electronic wizards at Yamaha can accurately reproduce the unique experience of an artisan piano!



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#332520 - 02/19/21 02:33 AM Re: An amusement - no politics! [Re: TatumAH]
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There was a fad for a while back in the 60s where they had contests to see who could destroy a piano with sledge hammer and axes, and pass the parts through various sized holes. Eight inch holes for newbie amateurs, and a much more stinggent 2 inch hole for professionals.

This was usually an event for the state fairs along with the more redneck destruction derby crowds! But some were artistic purrformances!

The upright category was less dangerous, as there were some unfortunate injuries when contestants fractured a grand piano lyre without de-stressing the strings generating 15-30,000 pounds of pressure.

Its much safer to burn them from a distance which produces totally different tones and timbre!

TAT


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